AR 180 B Front hinge pin problems?

I never had an issue with mine and I do shoot it. But it's nice to have some assurance that there will be replacements available.

Or just ask Armedsask to go in full production or sell us the blue prints.
 
Lawrence D said:
I never had an issue with mine and I do shoot it. But it's nice to have some assurance that there will be replacements available.

Or just ask Armedsask to go in full production or sell us the blue prints.
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I wouldn't make any money on them. To make any money the lowers would be ridiculously expensive. Our shop more than has the capabilities to manufacture lowers but would have to send them out to have the mag wells cut (EDM most likely), adding to the cost.

Unless I cut corners and made them out of 6061 but I refuse to do that.
 
#1bcshooter said:
Why not make them from stamped steel like the originals but keep it as a copy of the 180B so it is not prohibited ?
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Metal stampings are cheap.... if you are making thousands of parts. Not even an option worth considering for even a second.

The biggest hurdle is I really just don't care. I've wasted enough time building gun stuff.
 
Armedsask said:
Metal stampings are cheap.... if you are making thousands of parts. Not even an option worth considering for even a second.

The biggest hurdle is I really just don't care. I've wasted enough time building gun stuff.
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I love that statement (no offence) it should be put in a sticky for all the people here that keep asking why guns are not made in Canada ,
I wasn't actually asking you why you don't make them from stamped steel it was more a question why Armalite dose not make the 180B lower from stamped steel like the original , Granted a alum lower would be ideal (but costly) But I'd take a stamped steel over plastic any day . The reason Armalite used plastic was to keep cost down .
 
With modern CNC machines, it's actually cheaper to just mill stuff.

Back in the day, steel stampings were cheap because you had guys machining stuff by hand. Now days you can just punch in the 3D model in the computer and spit out a gun.
 
Well Ive heard enough,I talked to a supplier he says most of the breaks are from the forend being slammed down,ect.I need to know that my rifle is durable and reliable.This one doesnt seem to meet my expectations.Ill be selling it or trading it for a 308 Garand or a nice M14.Thanks everyone for your input.Dave
 
You're rifle is durable and reliable. My rifle has NEVER shown any signs of being anything more than one of the most reliable rifles I've ever owned.

Quit worrying so much.
 
I've shot one that someone brought to the range, and I liked it. But frankly, the talk about the breaking hinge point keeps my interest at bay. I understand your reluctance. Why the hell didn't they just imbed a steel pivot in the plastic like the rails on a glock?
 
Grizzlypeg said:
I've shot one that someone brought to the range, and I liked it. But frankly, the talk about the breaking hinge point keeps my interest at bay. I understand your reluctance. Why the hell didn't they just imbed a steel pivot in the plastic like the rails on a glock?
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That's a good point.

Dave.S said:
Well Ive heard enough,I talked to a supplier he says most of the breaks are from the forend being slammed down,ect.I need to know that my rifle is durable and reliable.This one doesnt seem to meet my expectations.Ill be selling it or trading it for a 308 Garand or a nice M14.Thanks everyone for your input.Dave
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What I can't seem to understand is why the hell anybody would just let it slam open. You wouldn't intentionally let your car door wrench wide open would you? However, the breakages that happen when it is fired are a little disconcerting.

I trust mine as much as any other firearm I own, and in fact it gets more use than my other rifles, including my 10/22.
 
Anyone had the base for the scope mount fall off?
I got a PM a while back from someone here that knew that I am a welder/fabricator.
It seems that his near new 180B falled apart. The base is merely spot welded on, and it came apart as soon as he tried to attach the mount.

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I opened up the two holes a bit more, tried to weld it back on, using the same method, but it came off again. So I welded it properly (with a "fillet" weld) down each side of the base at the point that it narrows. After cleaning it up with a mini-grinder, it allowed the mount to attach.
However, even though the base was now rock solid, it still had some play between the base and the removeable mount. At short range that would not be a problem, but at any decent scope range, it would be.

I think I'll stick with cheap Chinese crap;)
 
I had a original Armalite AR 180 back in the early 80's . It was a good reliable rifle stamped steel lower & upper . Only thing was with a 18" barrel it was restricted (AR15's were non restricted back then) I added barrel extension to make it non restricted (you could do that back then) & had to use AR18 or 180 30 RND mags as AR 15 mags would not work. Fast forward to 2006 , Bought a new 180B / 2 broken receivers wile shooting is enough for me . Now it sits in the safe & no its not for sale . It's nice to look at but I have no confidence in it & wouldn't rely on it in a time of need . I'll grad a M14 or my M4 if needs be .
 
tootall said:
Anyone had the base for the scope mount fall off?
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I didn't give it a chance. When I bought mine, I didn't see anything in that mount system to inspire my confidence so I just bypassed it and screwed a rail directly to the upper. But then, I was looking to get whatever accuracy I could squeeze out of the design and don't need quick on and off (which is what that mount was designed for). Mine is a predator rifle not a zombie blaster.

Now that I've finished "tweaking" the rifle, it's shooting decently and my confidence in it grows every time I take it out. Every winter it stacks up more coyotes.

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