ar 180 b
- Thread starter dweenz
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Yes, non restricted, the only place to find it will be on the EE used.
Why wouldn't it? It's a black rifle and this is the black rifle forum.
I got 3 of em (180b) and I love 'em!
This^^^
It's a pretty crude instrument.
Nowhere near the likes of the cheapest AR15.
I believe in the US they were going for or go for $600-$700
The one I owned came apart after 40 rounds.. Pig-welds that held the bolt carrier rail failed...
Take down pins held in place with C-clips...
Scope mounting options limited... Unless you don't care about being able to hold yer zero
The trigger... Crappy
The butt stock is flimsily attached to the lower...
Thank goodness I only paid $800 for it new...
I haven't owned one, but did weld the sight base back onto one belong to a member here.
The base was attached by tiny spot welds that broke off soon after mounting a scope.
Between that, and the plastic/nylon pivot point arrangement, I'll pass.
At $600, I might, for 3 times that price, NFW.
Each to his own, I guess. None of mine have ever given me any problems. That's 5000+ rounds each through 2 of 'em. If they were that bad, why do they get snapped up right away on the EE or any time a gun store gets one? I admit, I would much prefer an original Sterling, Howa or Costa Mesa built AR-180 myself, and if we didn't have ####head-engineered gun laws in this country I'd own one of them rather than a 180B. However, if you like 180's (which I do) you shoot what you can get. They incorporate a simple, short stroke piston driven mechanism.
I shoot coyotes and rabbits with mine. I can't do that with my AR-15's (of which I have 2 of). Can you?
The snap ring for the front take-down pin.... I guess that is kind of goofy for a rifle that should reasonably emulate a military-grade rifle. However, there are parts in aircraft and other large pieces of engineered machinery that thousands of people rely on every day for safety that incorporate snap rings. They're a very common component in many pieces of machinery. So, while they are kinda funny on a rifle, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
The plastic lower.....thousands of firearms carried every day by police officers and soldiers all over the world are made of polymer. If you don't abuse the 180B (especially at the front hinge) it will never break. At least mine never have, and mine aren't safe or range queens.
Will the 180 or 180B ever be an AR-15? No. I don't even compare the 2. My Bushmaster and my Colt are far superior rifles in construction and craftsmanship. Their design has also been refined for half a century with U.S government financial support while the AR-18 was designed with a different purpose in mind and then the design was abandoned. They are a completely different rifle and I don't pretend my 180Bs are AR-15's.
I suppose haters are gonna hate.....
I shoot coyotes and rabbits with mine. I can't do that with my AR-15's (of which I have 2 of). Can you?
The snap ring for the front take-down pin.... I guess that is kind of goofy for a rifle that should reasonably emulate a military-grade rifle. However, there are parts in aircraft and other large pieces of engineered machinery that thousands of people rely on every day for safety that incorporate snap rings. They're a very common component in many pieces of machinery. So, while they are kinda funny on a rifle, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
The plastic lower.....thousands of firearms carried every day by police officers and soldiers all over the world are made of polymer. If you don't abuse the 180B (especially at the front hinge) it will never break. At least mine never have, and mine aren't safe or range queens.
Will the 180 or 180B ever be an AR-15? No. I don't even compare the 2. My Bushmaster and my Colt are far superior rifles in construction and craftsmanship. Their design has also been refined for half a century with U.S government financial support while the AR-18 was designed with a different purpose in mind and then the design was abandoned. They are a completely different rifle and I don't pretend my 180Bs are AR-15's.
I suppose haters are gonna hate.....
Yup.
I have to say, for a gun that everyone seems to look down on, the mere mention of it always generates a lot of talk. Whether it be on the EE where they disappear within an hour, or here where in a couple of days it receives two pages of posts.
I've got a 180B and I have to say, I really like this gun. It serves it's purpose, never seems to let me down and hasn't cost me a dollar in maintenence since I bought it (except rags, brushes and lube). It gets more rounds than my AR, because I can shoot cans all day and not worry about my transport permit. If I needed to shoot cans at 300m, I would leave both my AR and 180 in the safe and choose something else.
If they made them again and it stayed non-res, I'd get another in case my first one falls in the lake.
The biggest downfall of the 180B was cost compared to the AR-15.
While AR prices in Canada typically exceed $1000 (except for Norcs), a basic, generic parts AR carbine can be had new in the US for $500-$600.
Given the plethora of accessories for the AR & the relative dearth of accessories for the 180B plus the fact that the 180B was more money it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why Armalite stopped production. They couldn't compete in the US with the AR and there was not enough of an export market to justify their production.
I have two & really like them but I also bought them when they were $700. At today's prices I would think long & hard before dropping the kind of coin they are commanding, non-restricted or not.
While AR prices in Canada typically exceed $1000 (except for Norcs), a basic, generic parts AR carbine can be had new in the US for $500-$600.
Given the plethora of accessories for the AR & the relative dearth of accessories for the 180B plus the fact that the 180B was more money it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why Armalite stopped production. They couldn't compete in the US with the AR and there was not enough of an export market to justify their production.
I have two & really like them but I also bought them when they were $700. At today's prices I would think long & hard before dropping the kind of coin they are commanding, non-restricted or not.
