AR Covert Carry Kit From Buds

Based on the laws I am aware of there shouldn't be an issue, but that's doesn't mean there isn't some dumb law that I'm not aware of that totally contradicts logic. That sort of things seems to be pretty common.

If possible I'd like to avoid using an import company, but I agree that they would be the "best" option if I can't figure it out on my own.
 
Holy crap, we got 3 people with the same avatar. I did not read the handle and for a minute, it seemed like one person having an argument with themselve.
 
mlehtovaara said:
If you are buying this case to carry a gun with the intention of hiding the fact you are carrying a gun you are breaking the law!.
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so when i have a rifle in a guitar case i am breaking the law? sorry but i don't buy that idea.

a rifle ready to be used under my jacket is conceal. under the sheets of my bed is conceal, under the front seat of my car is conceal. in a case, especially inoperable in this case is transport.
 
P0WERWAGON said:
so when i have a rifle in a guitar case i am breaking the law? sorry but i don't buy that idea.

a rifle ready to be used under my jacket is conceal. under the sheets of my bed is conceal, under the front seat of my car is conceal. in a case, especially inoperable in this case is transport.
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And your opinion means absolutely nothing.......

My statements are directly backed up by the case law linked in the post above yours.

Yours are based on your opinion which holds absolutely no weight in court.

If you have your gun in a guitar case and the reason you give the police is because you dont want to alarm people, then you are guilty of a criminal offence.

If you want to argue about it read the case law first. Then PM me so e dont derail this thread any further.
 
mlehtovaara said:
And your opinion means absolutely nothing.......

My statements are directly backed up by the case law linked in the post above yours.

Yours are based on your opinion which holds absolutely no weight in court.

If you have your gun in a guitar case and the reason you give the police is because you dont want to alarm people, then you are guilty of a criminal offence.

If you want to argue about it read the case law first. Then PM me so e dont derail this thread any further.
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so every time i go to the range i am breaking the law. i have my rifles in a discreet case as per firearm laws.
 
Powerwagon: Here is a quote from a judge in that link above:

"Finally, a firearm which breaks down and is carried in a case that resembles a briefcase should not be considered concealed if the carrying case is clearly marked as a firearm case." [emphasis mine]

...he goes on to say:

"Here, the mens rea of the offence was clearly established. The accused, knowing the rifle was a weapon, took steps to hide it from observation by others. His excuse that he concealed his rifle in order to avoid alarming the passengers on the train cannot constitute a defence."
 
sigger69 said:
Try reading this:
http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showthread.php?29807-transporting-a-firearm-on-pulbic-transit/page8
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This is a good read, but I want to argue or vent over almost every word in it lol

Some really important facts to take away from this link;
-The laws are constantly being amended, so don't put any faith on past cases.
-What you're doing can be less of a crime than what you "say" you're doing.
-Gun laws are vague and contradictory in order to allow the courts to do what ever they want.
-Just because one judge feels you're in the right doesn't mean another won't toss you in jail for the exact same thing.
-The smallest detail can be the difference between legal and illegal.
-Some people are too stupid to own fire arms.

Another factor that is generally ignored is that most cities have bylaws that govern over fire arms. For example; here in Calgary you can not transport a firearm unless it's in a secure personal vehicle. So no transit or bikes. Because of this, transporting a firearm in any type of case is illegal unless it's from your home to your car or your car to a range or other approved destination. This would technically void the conceal argument as you would be breaking the law no matter what your intent is.
 
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Based on that link; you could argue that as long as this brief case has a manufacturers label on it (Bud's Gun Shop) it is properly labelled as a gun case. That label could be discreetly embossed as long as it was legible when read.

That's assuming these laws listed in the link are still valid and haven't been amended to something else. Not to mention this doesn't factor in laws in other provinces or other cities.

A really big factor in this sort of matter is that most beat cops aren't as well versed in gun laws as you might think. It's there job to look potential violations of the law and it's a judges responsibility to determine the actual law. So just because you're in the right and know the law, doesn't mean the attending police officer does also, which can lead to arrest and huge legal bills. Know the laws, don't do anything stupid and be honest with law enforcement.
 
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