AR legal????

russellmn

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Ok, I'm a newbie to CA gun laws, but from what I read I was under the impression that ARs were illegal in CA. But it looks like they aren't from what I'm reading in here. So can someone set this American straight??? I'm considering moving there to be with my girlfriend who's in the Army and I want to bring my AR with me.
Thanks,
Russell
 
russellmn said:
Ok, I'm a newbie to CA gun laws, but from what I read I was under the impression that ARs were illegal in CA. But it looks like they aren't from what I'm reading in here. So can someone set this American straight??? I'm considering moving there to be with my girlfriend who's in the Army and I want to bring my AR with me.
Thanks,
Russell
bring lots of extra parts with you!!!;)
yes they are legal but classed as restricted(can only fire at the range)
others can tune in about the importation of them..
 
By CA, are you referring to Canada or California?
If it's Canada (Kanada for our socialism....)
AR variants are considered the same as handguns.
In Kanada, there's no restriction on barrel length...anyone who can own a handgun, can own any length AR...be it 7", 10.5", 11.5", 14.5", etc.....
However, they can only be used at a recognized range...public or private, just as a handgun could be.
 
The 2000 Assault Weapons in the state of California sparked a renewed interest in the AR-15 rifle. It is estimated that some 60,000 California Legal AR-15s are in existence in that state.[citation needed] Replacing the Lower Receiver of a standard AR-15 with one that has a fixed (10 round) magazine (see below) will render the firearm "California legal", and able to utilize banned features such as a telescoping stock and pistol grip. The magazine is not detachable, so to load the rifle the shooter must pull the rear takedown pin, hinge the upper receiver on the front takedown pin, and load the now exposed magazine either with a stripper clip or by hand, then close. Popular lower receivers for this purpose are manufactured by Stag Arms, Fulton Armory, Dane Armory, Mega, and Ameetec. By California law if the magazine requires a tool to remove it, that changes the classification of the firearm. A tool called the "Bullet Button" is gaining in popularity, the bullet button works by replacing the magazine release button with a hollow shell that protrudes a short distance from the lower, the shooter must then push the inset pin to activate the mag release, doing so requires a tool e.g., a bullet, hence the name. Stag makes a lower receiver called the STAG-15 which is considered an "off-list" receiver by the CA DOJ and is legal. As of December 2006, Doublestar, Stag Arms, CMMG, and MEGA all qualify as "off-list" lowers in the state of CA. There is also one model made by Colt, the CAR-A3 HBAR Elite, that was never banned by name, and thus still legal to own in California provided it has the correct configuration, this receiver can be made into a full rifle if the following requirements are met: the receiver has a fixed magazine with no more than 10 cartridges - in which case the rifle may have pistol grips, folding or collapsing stocks, etc.; or, the receiver may have a detachable magazine but may not possess any sort of attachment such as pistol grips, folding or collapsing stocks, etc.

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Sorry about the confusion, I meant Canada. I'm a "dirty American" to quote my girlfriend. :p
So what if I owned property out in the middle of nowhere and set up my own "range", would I be ok???
oh, and how about 30 rd. magazines???? I have 47 of them.
and thanks for the fast responses.
 
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russellmn said:
Sorry about the confusion, I meant Canada. I'm a "dirty American" to quote my girlfriend. :p
So what if I owned property out in the middle of nowhere and set up my own "range", would I be ok???
oh, and how about 30 rd. magazines???? I have 47 of them.
and thanks for the fast responses.


The range has to be approved by the Canadian Firearms folks, and as far as the mags......you have to neuter them. They must be modified so that they can hold only 5 rounds. Sorry to be the one to tell you :redface:
 
russellmn said:
Sorry about the confusion, I meant Canada. I'm a "dirty American" to quote my girlfriend. :p
So what if I owned property out in the middle of nowhere and set up my own "range", would I be ok???
oh, and how about 30 rd. magazines???? I have 47 of them.
and thanks for the fast responses.


You would have to have it approved by the provincial firearms officer, (there is a thread somewhere here about folks who have had private ranges done). As for the 30 round, or normal capacity mags, sorry they are limited to 5 up here and Kanada customs won't let your in.

Even if you pin them with the required rivet you will probably get flack from them and they will hold them up. You can buy 10 round AR pistol mags up here and use them instead. Sucks but then the state of things up here right now.
 
I'm keeping my U.S. citizenship, I don't know if that will help any. I figured on trying the "I'm just visiting" line and see if it works. I don't know though, like I said, I'm new to your laws.

Thanks again for all the info, quite helpful.
 
russellmn said:
So what if I owned property out in the middle of nowhere and set up my own "range", would I be ok???
Legally speaking, it would have to be approved by the Chief Firearms officer.


How ever, everything is legal if you don't get caught. Not that I'm sudgesting you break the law or that I ever have. None of us lowly Canadians gun owners would ever think of fireing our handguns off the back deck out on our farms.
 
CZ85Combat said:
Get your girlfriend a green card to join the US Army instead... :evil:
That way, you can keep all the cool rights :p


She won't, loves Canada. VERY patriotic. Can't fault her for that. So, if I want to be with her I move up there.
She's a weapons tech land. Gonna build me a nice sniper rifle!

how about suppressors??? legal??
 
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a patriotic canadian holy #### man you found a rare one things are in a sad state here u could try pinning a a few mags yourself see if its alright
 
russellmn said:
She won't, loves Canada. VERY patriotic. Can't fault her for that. So, if I want to be with her I move up there.
She's a weapons tech land. Gonna build me a nice sniper rifle!

how about suppressors??? legal??

Nope negative on suppressors. : ( Can't carry handguns either, but we are working on that!

The only thing our gun laws have over the US is that we don't have to pay a $200 stamp for barrels under 16 inches. Can be as short as we want, but under 18.5 it gets classified as restricted so its a range only gun.
 
scotty said:
The only thing our gun laws have over the US is that we don't have to pay a $200 stamp for barrels under 16 inches. Can be as short as we want, but under 18.5 it gets classified as restricted so its a range only gun.

One of the other few advandages is that what we have here is that our B&G rifles doesn't has to be "Made/Built in Canada"........ that why we can get Vz.58/CZ858, Type 97's, PE90;s and Tavors without have to be the LE/Military dealers :dancingbanana: .....
 
Also:

No upper limit on bore size (you would call it Destructive Device). A Russian PRTD anti tank gun will go for about US $10,000, while the same thing here is about $1500- 1800 Can $

Norinco products are still being imported.

Guns can be mail ordered right to your door. No need for a FFL dealer

Handguns can be purchased at age 18, provided you have the PAL-Rectricted. Down there, age 21 from an FFL, (some states allow age 18 for a private sale, I believe)

Still, you guys have it pretty good, all in all.;)

If you do come up, where abouts in Canada?


BTW, check out the Newbie FAQ. the link is my sigline
 
I still want to see where any part of the Firearms Act or Criminal code - forbid me from firing a restricted firearm on a property that is is registered to?
I know several folks with sections of land that do just that and the RCMP have said it was perfectly fine.
 
KevinB said:
I still want to see where any part of the Firearms Act or Criminal code - forbid me from firing a restricted firearm on a property that is is registered to?
I know several folks with sections of land that do just that and the RCMP have said it was perfectly fine.

Thank you for that aha! moment Kev. I will be inquiring about this further! :)
 
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