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I didn't really know where to put this thread, so mods please move if necessary.

Does anybody here actually own an AR pistol? You always hear people talking about the magazines being allowed ten rounds, and being usable in an AR-15, but I haven't heard of anybody in Canada owning one of these, except the magazines. What is this pistol like? Seems to be a pretty ugly looking thing to me..
 
gyates93 said:
I didn't really know where to put this thread, so mods please move if necessary.

Does anybody here actually own an AR pistol? You always hear people talking about the magazines being allowed ten rounds, and being usable in an AR-15, but I haven't heard of anybody in Canada owning one of these, except the magazines. What is this pistol like? Seems to be a pretty ugly looking thing to me..
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I own a RRA 9mm AR "Pistol". it is stamped "Pistol" on the reciever, and is registered as a Pistol.

The 5.56 AR "Pistol" looks exactly the same................except for the difference in calibers.......

The only difference between the "Pistol" and the Rifle is there is no stock on the Pistol (just the buffer tube), and of course the shorter barrel (options available are 7" to 10.5" barrels......)

SKBY.
 
Skullboy said:
I own a RRA 9mm AR "Pistol". it is stamped "Pistol" on the reciever, and is registered as a Pistol.

The 5.56 AR "Pistol" looks exactly the same................except for the difference in calibers.......

The only difference between the "Pistol" and the Rifle is there is no stock on the Pistol (just the buffer tube), and of course the shorter barrel (options available are 7" to 10.5" barrels......)

SKBY.
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I am interested in these pistols but want it to be chambered in .223.
Questar advertises some $99 odd dollars for the stock option. Is this option going to change its classification to the rifle?
I am not very clear on this.
For instance .223, what makes it a pistol? Lack of a stock, shorter barrel or simply because 'Pistol' stamped on its receiver.

Cheers
 
In the US if you own an AR pistol its illegal to install collapsable stock unless you will pay $200 tax stamp and register it as SBR.

My 9mm AR was build in stripped Stag lower and its registered as rifle.
 
The US laws are different from Canadian laws. The AR Pistols are made in the US and so at the time of manufacture of the lower receiver some are marked as "Pistols" and some aren't. If it's marked as a "Pistol" then it is exported from the US as a "Pistol" and it enters Canada as a "Pistol".

On that basis we register it into the Canadian system as a "Restricted Handgun" instead of as a "Restricted Rifle". From the Canadian point of view it really doesn't matter... as an AR or AR Variant it is going to be classified as Restricted and in Canada it doesn't matter whether its "Restricted Handgun" or "Restricted Rifle". Once it's registered as one or the other adding a stock or taking off the stock doesn't change anything... not in this country. In the US it's a whole other story.

We have the lowers in both configurations... some people like that it's registered as a "Pistol" and some prefer that it's a Rifle. If you want a "Rifle" then we can sell you the Pistol upper mounted to the rifle lower and it will be registered as a Restricted Rifle.

Keep in mind that the Pistol lowers come with Star Selectors, Hogue Grips standard... the Rifle Lowers do not... but we can add those features for you if you want.

We can pretty much combine them however you prefer.

When it comes down to it... US B#!! Sh*t aside... the only difference is the stamp on the side that says "Pistol"... and the "pistol" extension tube that the factory installs to make it "legal" for sale in the US as a Pistol.

Hope that clarifies it for you :)

Mark
 
That is mine { PISTOL }

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Yup, i have a bushmaster carbon 15 in 9mm and its marked pistol on the receiver so there's your ten rounds. The importer slapped a telescopic stock on it with m203 style handguard. Eats up 9mm like there's no tomorrow. .223 is retarded in a pistol, the noise and muzzle flash makes it uncomfortable to shoot.
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Yup, i have a bushmaster carbon 15 in 9mm and its marked pistol on the receiver so there's your ten rounds. The importer slapped a telescopic stock on it with m203 style handguard. Eats up 9mm like there's no tomorrow. .223 is retarded in a pistol, the noise and muzzle flash makes it uncomfortable to shoot.
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Actually, I've got one in .223 with a KX3 and there is no flash whatsoever and the noise is not that bad.

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i need to get one of those rra pistols in .223 too

here's the pistol i have now.
looking for a shorter buffer, gonna change over the HG to a quad with a vert grip, other than that, i think it's done.

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So.... how do they shoot?

The RRA 9mm and .223 are then next two guns on my pre-ban "to get" list. Coffee cans are set and have a little $ in them after paying for yet another 1911. :)
 
medicstimpy said:
So.... how do they shoot?

The RRA 9mm and .223 are then next two guns on my pre-ban "to get" list. Coffee cans are set and have a little $ in them after paying for yet another 1911. :)
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I hit golf balls at 25 metres with my 9mm. It's more accurate than my 44 mag with a 10.5" barrel.
 
I own a DPMS Kitty kat. here is the pic, 7inch barrel. Its unfired Can't wait to see the flash on this one.
Just got it about 3 days ago, Its gonna be my new project. as you can see its naked. Give me another month :D
(don't mind the money it was to show the length. I am broke for the record.):bangHead:

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I own a DPMS Kitty kat. here is the pic, 7inch barrel. Its unfired Can't wait to see the flash on this one.
Just got it about 3 days ago, Its gonna be my new project. as you can see its naked. Give me another month :D
(don't mind the money it was to show the length. I am broke for the record.):bangHead:

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I'm interested in an AR, possibly the pistol, but from all the Canadian sources, the only one I saw was Questar's RRA pistols.
May I ask where you got this (DPMS) and where jamiejaf got his bushmaster?
 
Benito said:
I'm interested in an AR, possibly the pistol, but from all the Canadian sources, the only one I saw was Questar's RRA pistols.
May I ask where you got this (DPMS) and where jamiejaf got his bushmaster?
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My DPMS Kitty Kat was a special order for the movie "The Recruit" for a short filming in Ontario, and it got auctioned off to the guy who sold it to me I believe. I never seen one in Canada :/ I dunno where he got his bushmaster but You would be better off looking for something else than a DPMS Kitty Kat me thinks.
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Questar said:
The US laws are different from Canadian laws. The AR Pistols are made in the US and so at the time of manufacture of the lower receiver some are marked as "Pistols" and some aren't. If it's marked as a "Pistol" then it is exported from the US as a "Pistol" and it enters Canada as a "Pistol".

On that basis we register it into the Canadian system as a "Restricted Handgun" instead of as a "Restricted Rifle". From the Canadian point of view it really doesn't matter... as an AR or AR Variant it is going to be classified as Restricted and in Canada it doesn't matter whether its "Restricted Handgun" or "Restricted Rifle". Once it's registered as one or the other adding a stock or taking off the stock doesn't change anything... not in this country. In the US it's a whole other story.
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According to the Criminal Code (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/ShowDo...l_III//en?page=3&isPrinting=false#codese:84):
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"handgun" means a firearm that is designed, altered or intended to be aimed and fired by the action of one hand, whether or not it has been redesigned or subsequently altered to be aimed and fired by the action of both hands;
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The CFC has it in one of their pamphlets that the usual method they use to identify whether a firearm is designed to be fired with one or two hands is the presence of a stock.

That means that an AR that isn't designed or manufactured with a stock is classified as a hangun and that classification sticks to it even if a stock is added to it.

In the case of an AR, as you mentioned, it doesn't matter because they're restricted in both handgun and rifle forms but it may be important to know for other types of rifle-caliber handguns.
 
There's also the situation that you might want to take it into the US on a Form 6NIA, so you have to comply with the US law. They're both classed as "not suitable for sporting purposes" but that test doesn't apply for temporary imports.
 
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