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I am looking to get an AR this year but have no clue where to start. So many variants, different uppers, different lowers, etc. I have been doing some reading but my eyes are glazing over pretty quick.

Can you all give me some recommendations? I will primarily be using this gun for multi gun shooting, but can see myself having a try at service rifle shooting as well. (are these two types of shooting mutually exclusive when it comes to the type of AR??)

Thanks
 
dudley2112 said:
werent you looking at a non-res black gun at one point? sorry this doesn't answers your question lol.
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I was, ultimately decided against it because of price and the disadvantage if being used in service rifle. Plus, I review the various non-restricted guns.....and none of them are an AR.

Plus the more that I thought about it, centerfire rifle really is required for hunting here in SW Ontario. Most varmit can be taken with a responsible .22 shot, or I can use my shotgun.

I always knew I wanted an AR, just now I am committed to it (assuming I can sell my Tikka :))
 
I have wanted an AR for sometime..but back before the 10 round mags..they just didnt intrest me so I bought a Beretta Storm..still have it and its actually my favorite gun...anyway I bought a Norinco M4..I wanted a 14.5 inch barrel and keep the cost under 1000.00 its a great way to learn about ARs and not spend a pile of money if you dont like it..
 
Onagoth said:
I was, ultimately decided against it because of price and the disadvantage if being used in service rifle. Plus, I review the various non-restricted guns.....and none of them are an AR.

Plus the more that I thought about it, centerfire rifle really is required for hunting here in SW Ontario. Most varmit can be taken with a responsible .22 shot, or I can use my shotgun.

I always knew I wanted an AR, just now I am committed to it (assuming I can sell my Tikka :))
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ah ok that makes sense......i just bought and ar180 b/c non-res was most important for me.

On the topic of the AR look at moving target they have the Norc m4 for 899 including shipping and tasex they seem desperate to sell them and the reviews on them are all good so far. The guys at target are good to deal with too.
 
waynesixgun said:
I have wanted an AR for sometime..but back before the 10 round mags..they just didnt intrest me so I bought a Beretta Storm..still have it and its actually my favorite gun...anyway I bought a Norinco M4..I wanted a 14.5 inch barrel and keep the cost under 1000.00 its a great way to learn about ARs and not spend a pile of money if you dont like it..
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Unfortunately, I think a norc rules me out of any multi gun shoots in the states. I don't think they'll let them in.
 
Onagoth said:
Unfortunately, I think a norc rules me out of any multi gun shoots in the states. I don't think they'll let them in.
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A 14.5 barrel would rule that out too. Anything under 16" is considered a short barrelled rifle (SBR) and has to be registered under Federal Law, since you don't qualify to register an SBR you can't take one south. So a 16" barrel is the shortest you'll be looking at. Try ArmsEast, for Stag.
 
ian_in_vic said:
A 14.5 barrel would rule that out too. Anything under 16" is considered a short barrelled rifle (SBR) and has to be registered under Federal Law, since you don't qualify to register an SBR you can't take one south. So a 16" barrel is the shortest you'll be looking at. Try ArmsEast, for Stag.
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Well, I was thinking more like a 20" HBAR, but, this is mostly just my gut feel right now.
 
A flat top AR with a 16" or 20" barrel with a faster twist (I'm partial to 1:7s) would be the way to go, and would serve you well for three gun and SR.
I use a 20" for SR and the 16" would have advantage with three gun competitions.

A decent variable (3 - 9x) powered optic with adjustable windage and elevation knobs would be the best for SR, and I'm guessing either irons, a red-dot or a low powered variable (1 to 4x) would be the way to go for three gun.

Obviously variations on the theme would work, so best bet would be to keep it simple at the outset, get some ammo and get out and start shooting.
 
Well, I haven't finished yet but I've started on the same journey you are on.

First thing I did was read this section of the forum up and down. And started checking out things such as ar15.com and the assembly videos at Brownells.

Second thing I did was check out the AR section in the photos forum. The guns I liked the look of I PM'd the owners and asked what was on their build.

Then I bought a lower from a supporting dealer (although this could have been easily had in the EE lately), a stock off the EE, a grip off the EE and a lower parts kit from a supporting dealer.

Now just contemplating building an upper or waiting for the right upper at the right price in the EE.

Don't know if that helps you but its the path I've taken thus far.
 
I went the parts route. Have two uppers, one 1:12 for CQB, the other 1:8 for SR.
If I were doing it again, I would buy a quality brand name 20" rifle with at least a 1:9 barrel.
The scope should be readily adjustable for multiple range use. A variable with lower power would be fine, will work for both CQB and Service Rifle.
You don't need to hang rails and other accessories all over it.
From a competition shooting standpoint, you don't need a collapsible stock.
Check on the match conditions for the shooting you will be doing. Unless there is good reason to get 10 rounders, quality 5/30s make more sense.
 
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