AR10 - Original vs Current Designs

It is a mistake to think there is any technical merit to the classification of one firearm based upon some supposed relationship to another firearm. The classification system is politics hiding behind technical gobbledy gook.

The AR10 is restricted as a variant of the AR15 even though the AR10 preceded the AR15.

The chinese M14's are non-restricted even though the original generations of those rifles were built on the very same equipment as the original and now 12-3 prohibited 1960's generation M14's. For those not in the know, the chinese purchased the equipment from Springfield etc, including the blueprints, shipped everything across the pacific and started making guns almost identical to the original ones, so much so that early chinese trigger groups even included the auto sear. Yet these guns are non-restricted while the originals are prohibited. This is politics, nothing more.
 
It was the Chinese in Taiwan who purchased the US M-14 production equipment, not the Chinese of the Peoples Republic of China. The M305s are from the PRC.
 
Link this.

Ok not new, but dated 2010

http://static.globalnews.ca/content/interactives/documents/general_news_bucket/A-2012-00068.PDF

In Section 6 AR1-15 family of firearms where it says "less accurate copies will not be captured by the regulation" and Section 8 SIG 522 rifle the comment " The SiG 522 is a prohibited firearm as a variant of the SIG 550 which may provoke complaints"

now with the successful challenge of the Akdal shotgun classification because it was originally deemed a variant of a restricted, it certainly opens up some possibilities.
 
The AR10 is restricted as a variant of the AR15 even though the AR10 preceded the AR15.

That's because the 'new' AR10(A and B models) ARE based off the Ar15. The Ar15 is based off the original AR10.

If someone built an original (semi-auto) pattern AR10 it would be non-res
 
That's because the 'new' AR10(A and B models) ARE based off the Ar15. The Ar15 is based off the original AR10.

If someone built an original (semi-auto) pattern AR10 it would be non-res

There's a definite possibility that some people at the RCMP lab agree with you on that. And have been convinced in the relatively recent past.

We'll see if it comes to anything soon.
 
Who said that the AR-10 lower is non-restricted?
An original lower will be prohibited, a current one will be restricted.

Then there is the AR-10ish Modern Hunter, but it is non-restricted.

Absolutely false. While most are prohibit, there are a few that fall under the restricted catagory.
 
Ok not new, but dated 2010

http://static.globalnews.ca/content/interactives/documents/general_news_bucket/A-2012-00068.PDF

In Section 6 AR1-15 family of firearms where it says "less accurate copies will not be captured by the regulation" and Section 8 SIG 522 rifle the comment " The SiG 522 is a prohibited firearm as a variant of the SIG 550 which may provoke complaints"

now with the successful challenge of the Akdal shotgun classification because it was originally deemed a variant of a restricted, it certainly opens up some possibilities.

Maybe, but I don't see anything in that document where the RCMP imply a.) they have erred and b.) those errors could be rectified by court action. What I read is something like "We're doing are level best, as guardians of public safety, do deal with massive flood of military weaponry into this country. If you don't like one of our classifications, we'll see you in court."
 
Maybe, but I don't see anything in that document where the RCMP imply a.) they have erred and b.) those errors could be rectified by court action. What I read is something like "We're doing are level best, as guardians of public safety, do deal with massive flood of military weaponry into this country. If you don't like one of our classifications, we'll see you in court."

They made the mistake of letting the Sig in. It was prohibited all along. They just didn't catch it until years after they classified it incorrectly, and then looked bad causing the CPC to act.

The Sig is prohibited by name. Now certain versions of it are exempt. Due to RCMP bumbling.
 
OK. But what was interesting to me was NOT whether or not they made a mistake. I think we all agree the RCMP makes a bunch of mistakes when it comes to classification. What was interesting to me was whether or not the RCMP was prepared to ADMIT they make mistakes when it comes to classification. I would say this sort of admission would be very significant.
 
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OK. But what was interesting to me was NOT whether or not they made a mistake. I think we all agree the RCMP makes a bunch of mistakes when it comes to classification. What was interesting to me was whether or not the RCMP was prepared to ADMIT they make mistakes when it comes to classification. I would say this sort of admission would be very significant.

Like they did with the Akdal? And the Type 81 which up until very recently had a decade old FRT entry that said semi auto versions were also prohibited as AK variants, and which is now missing in place of the more current Type 81 FRT entry?

Twice in one week. Very significant.
 
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