AR15 availability during the last American Awb

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Anikin67

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I'd like to hear from some of the CGNers that were into black guns prior to 2004. My questions is: what kind of AR15 availability was there here in Canada during the last awb(that expired in 2004)? Assuming that some form of AWB, or at least some serious restrictions, will be in place in the near future down south, how would it affect availability here?
 
fenceline said:
Who is to say any future AWB will follow the design of the previous? Could very well be comparing apples to oranges. If you think its going to limit availability, shop accordingly now.[/QUOTE

We're talking about an AW "Ban". I pretty sure there's not many variations on the theme when it comes to "Bans".
I'd like to form a more educated opinion based on the experiences of the more senior, experienced members of CGN before I "shop accordingly."
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In true market fashion, as some things may become restricted to the public, not banned from manufacture those manufacturers may be looking for new markets for their products. ie. you can't get a butler creek 25 round mag for a 10/22 in California but you can buy them here.
We may find that some products become much easier to get here as the manufacturers look for other markets to sell their goods.
 
Anikin67 said:
fenceline: Who is to say any future AWB will follow the design of the previous? Could very well be comparing apples to oranges. If you think its going to limit availability, shop accordingly now. /fenceline quote...

We're talking about an AW "Ban". I pretty sure there's not many variations on the theme when it comes to "Bans".
I'd like to form a more educated opinion based on the experiences of the more senior, experienced members of CGN before I "shop accordingly."
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There could be lots of different types of bans, depending on how far they want to take it. The AR15 wasn't banned in the US on the first go around, but certain features were banned. Bayonet lugs, collapsible stocks, and other things that made a gun scary. Bayo lugs were ground off, and stocks were pinned to keep them from collapsing or folding. Very much a "assault rifle features" ban vs a "assault rifle" ban.

So they could do a features ban again, with an expiry, or they could do a "named gun" ban like we have with no expiry. The two are VERY different. Both suck, but one sucks more. Until we know what, if any ban is planned it is hard to say how difficult it will be to obtain one or any item from the US.

Again, if you want something now, and you feel it might be harder to get, or impossible, buy it now.
 
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Ditchdogger said:
In true market fashion, as some things may become restricted to the public, not banned from manufacture those manufacturers may be looking for new markets for their products. ie. you can't get a butler creek 25 round mag for a 10/22 in California but you can buy them here.
We may find that some products become much easier to get here as the manufacturers look for other markets to sell their goods.
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I believe they want to ban the production of those "assault rifle" as well.
 
I'm sure they'll allow any "banned" rifles to be produced for LE/export, so I don't think well see any drop in availability once things settle down, even if there is a "ban".
 
Ar180shooter said:
I'm sure they'll allow any "banned" rifles to be produced for LE/export, so I don't think well see any drop in availability once things settle down, even if there is a "ban".
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im sure the american government will allow exports but just how much of a market demand is there in canada or the rest of the world for american AR15's or semi auto sport rifles? i highly doubt we or rest of the other countries could keep all the american shops manufacturing. i forsee alot of closed down shops. this ofcourse will limit our ability to get a variety of american rifles.
 
The Feds can;t control the production of arms in a state. Only the trade.

You will see states say F U to the Feds if they try anything that drastic

Texas can make all the full auto they want....as long as they don;t cross the border.

That is why the AWB worked last time. You can;t buy anything because shipping it would mean you end up in prison.
 
If there was an assault weapons ban in the US, I think that only the manufactures with large government contracts, would survive. Many of those companies that also do civilian sales, will likely continue to export.
 
Ebola said:
im sure the american government will allow exports but just how much of a market demand is there in canada or the rest of the world for american AR15's or semi auto sport rifles? i highly doubt we or rest of the other countries could keep all the american shops manufacturing. i forsee alot of closed down shops. this ofcourse will limit our ability to get a variety of american rifles.
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I doubt they'd do a ban on models like what happened up here. In order to get any support from the Republicans who are on the fence, they would have to have a feature ban like back in 94, and even then, it would only apply to domestic sales. There is a fair bit of demand internationally, and they would still be producing "compliant" rifles for domestic consumption.
 
Feinswein has already said she was going to introduce legislation banning firearms by specific name as they do in Commiefornia as opposed to the features test of her old AWB law.

To paraphrase G.W. Bush, it's easier for Canadians to fight the anti's on American soil so that we don't have to fight them here. If this proposed ban becomes reality in the US, it's just a matter of time before Liberal Gov't introduces it here.

We're lucky. We have time to prepare for the battle ahead. American gun enthusiasts don't have that luxury at this point. Their reality is now.
 
Ar180shooter said:
There is a fair bit of demand internationally, and they would still be producing "compliant" rifles for domestic consumption.
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the though of compliant AR15's scare me...........

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