ar15 ejecting forward

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my armalite AR15 16" with an M16 bolt/carrier is ejecting foreward not a huge deal but i shoot outdoors and the brass lands in the snow pile in front of the benches and you lose alot of it.

last night i took the extractor off it had a piece of rubber inside the spring I replaced the spring but left out the rubber (seemed to be binding the spring)
this rifle allways ejected fine never any jams

ideas anyone?

i have and a2 stock on it now and it did the same with the carbine stock
 
The small little rubber piece/post is supposed to be in there as an aid for ejection. If you have a gun that is functioning 100% leave it alone, other than cleaning properly. There is even an aftermarket company that is making an additional rubber "donut"/D ring that goes into the ejector spring area as an additional aid to the regular spring and rubber post. Mostly used for shorter 10"-14.5" guns that have violent extraction. They need something to stiffen the extractor.

As hoddie mentioned, it may be the brass deflector/bump.

There are other military firearms, ie. HK, that deflect forward. Positive ejection is a good thing. Don't mess with success.
 
I've seen some AR's deflect forward although most go backwards. If one deflects forward in my experience it's always been an Armalite.

As mentioned, if it functions, leave it alone. No big deal.
 
canucklehead said:
I'm guessing you mean "RIGHT". Unless you have a Stag Arms L model... ;)
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That had me thinking too! Mine ejects nearly striaght to the right pretty far too! Colt model 6920 that is.
 
like i said the ejection just bothers me as the brass lands in the snow when it goes forword

I do have the case deflector the brass is NOT touching it at all (never a mark on the deflector)
 
contact148 said:
like i said the ejection just bothers me as the brass lands in the snow when it goes forword

I do have the case deflector the brass is NOT touching it at all (never a mark on the deflector)
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Put an empty shoe box or even your range bag on the bench in the path of the shells to stop them.
 
My AR throws the brass everywhere, forward, sideways, and backwards.
The brass deflector is doing its job if the brass is being flung forward.
 
Vz

My VZ-52/57 expels its brass (steel?) six feet out, at the 10 to 11 position. I call it a "neighbor-shooter-friendly rifle" :cool:
I vastly prefer a rifle that you can fire without worrying about pelting the adjacent shooters with hot brass.
I remember once a very well endowed young lady having a sizzling hot 22 casing land just at the right spot in her nicely unbuttoned blouse... after that, it was "shields up" for the rest of the afternoon :( ...
PP.
 
muzzle flash said:
If I burn VARGET it throws them forward if I use 4198 it tosses them backward in neat piles. GO FIGURE.
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It has to do with relative burn rate speed: the 4198 being much faster than Varget, its peak pressure wave has had enough time to subside BEFORE reaching the gas port, so there's a lower pressure gas puff at the carrier and it results in less speed imparted to the carrier and bolt.
The brass doesn't collide violently on the ejector to rebound out of the action: instead it pivots on the extractor claw, therefore leaving the port at a backwards angle and slower speed, which accounts for the low dispersion of the ejected brass.
Simple...:p
PP.:)
 
I went to C.T. and bought a big cheap tarp. I then cut apart a clotheshanger to pin the tarp to the ground on all four corners like tentpegs. Works like a charm and I don't lose my brass. If the rifle ejects them far, place the tarp where they are most likely to go.

Rolls up easily and stashes anywhere. Any amount of tarps can be used. Doesn't have to be new tarps. No reason to lose your brass. Canadian Tire is everywhere. Metal clotheshangers are everywhere, steal some. What are you waiting for?

:D
 
One way to get an AR to eject it's brass backwards is to put in a heavier ejector spring. One cure I use to get a rifle to eject forward is to shorten the ejector spring a coil at a time untill it works the way I want it too.

Scott
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