AR15 escaped Canada

jobbass said:
Hi,

1- Can you tell me the whole process about import export and what it involve.
2-Are you resident now in the US , or visitor or US Citizen
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1 - I have 2 different exports. This one I used iRun Guns as I originally bought the rifle from them. They can arrange to re-import guns that they originally sold. Seems to be the only way to get AR’s into the US as their features otherwise run afoul of the “weapons of war/no sporting purpose” classification. For instance, I was unable to bring my Ruger PCC, even though you can buy the exact gun here and it’s made in the US, the features make it ineligible (threaded barrel, accepts removable magazines, etc.)

My second import is thru Borderview (Abbotsford BC). Their website walks you thru the procedure. Basically you pack each gun in a case or box. Trigger lock. Fill out details forms on each gun. You also have to declare the value of each, so I went on US used gun websites to find equivalent models for sale and printed the pages as evidence of value. You also need to select a local FFL dealer to receive the guns on your behalf. Most gun stores will do this but they each have their own cost structure so it pays to do some homework. I found a place that does it for $20/gun, saw others that were $50/gun. You must provide a State issued Drivers Licence as proof of residency in the State. You then fill out a digital ATF form that asks you about your status, criminality, straw purchases, etc. it gets submitted and you wait to see if it’s approved (mine too 5 minutes).

I made arrangements and physically drove my gun to the brokers office at the border so I didn’t have to mail them, which is another option. I’m still waiting on these ones. The ATF has to approve the import and it is about 3 or so months. I know the brokers are backed up right now as so many are using this service. This import includes my hand guns, hunting rifles and shotgun. The broker can advise if any gun is non-importable. I sold my Ruger in Canada as it was still non-restricted.

2.- I’m a US citizen. My wife is a specialized Pediatric neurology nurse so she is here on an infinitely renewable Visa as her skills are in demand.
 
For whatever reason, it seems to have been almost impossible for Americans to have obtained a Diemaco/Colt Canada AR even before the Liberals shut things down, so they're not so entirely free as may first appear. OTOH, just had a visit from a woman who grew up as a meek little Canadian farm girl and after some adventures ended up living in Vermont with an American husband. She said she now has two handguns, one for purse carry and one for fun target practice, whereas before she would not have tolerated one lying on a table in her presence.
 
Big Bad said:
For whatever reason, it seems to have been almost impossible for Americans to have obtained a Diemaco/Colt Canada AR even before the Liberals shut things down, so they're not so entirely free as may first appear. OTOH, just had a visit from a woman who grew up as a meek little Canadian farm girl and after some adventures ended up living in Vermont with an American husband. She said she now has two handguns, one for purse carry and one for fun target practice, whereas before she would not have tolerated one lying on a table in her presence.
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i will have no problem to let the diemaco/colt canada not been able to purchase to get all the other ones we can t get anymore plus magazine limitations we have ... remember they cant get shorter barrel for shotgun but they can get shorty handguns or even regular handguns as of today ... our actual freedom is more a leash than anything else ....
 
You are inspirational... I am a wellsite Geologist and I hear Texas has 2 of my favourite things....oil and guns...Now the mandates lifted for travel I should probably get serious about moving the #### out of Chinada/ Ukrinana... Or maybe if I just identify as a Texan...
 
Quick update!

The rest of my guns have arrived...7 MONTHS!

Borderview was an outstanding broker, would highly recommend them. The import process with them was straight forward, I know all the delays are with the paperwork timelines on the US side.

A couple of humorous observations:

1.) My eldest son upon receiving his hunting rifle, open it up, removes trigger lock, replaces bolt, then goes to put trigger lock back on. I comment to him..."You don't actually have to trigger lock it anymore, in fact, you could load it and toss it in a corner if you wanted." Yes, it is not loaded and being stored in our safe, but the freedom to not have possible criminal charges for making your own decisions is fantastic.

2.) The digital back-ground check form that you submit at the FFL dealer is quite something. It asks you all of these questions that I simply can't see anyone ever checking the "yes" box to. Are you currently a fugitive from justice? Are you prohibited from owning firearms? (Yeah, I was going to get the gun then I realized that I can't in good conscience check the "no" box on these." Said no criminal ever!).

3.) The sad moment of realization that all my M&P 9mm magazines are factory 10 shot, not pinned...the happy moment of realization that a standard magazine is 17 rounds and 23+ round magazines are available.

4.) Walking into a gun shop, mentioning you are from Canada and they immediately ask you if you would like to look at their suppressor selection.

5.) Waiting for my concealed carry permit to arrive. Yes Texas is a "Constitutional Carry" state, but licensing allows you to carry in infinitely larger number of places and should you ever be pulled over ensures a "smoother interaction." It was a 1 day course, including a 50 round course of fire on a torso target at 3 distances with different "strings" required under a timer. I shot a perfect 200 point score, using a rented pistol (CZ-SP01 Shadow 2) that they just handed me over the counter. The part that surprised me was that I saw targets from other students that outright MISSED the entire torso...like, how do you do that...with your OWN gun! Shudder.

6.) Looking at Sig Sauer P365 X-Macro Romeo Comp. Checked a local store, "we just sold the last one, they go quick, we can order you one, our rep is really good and we will have no issues getting it for you, I think there is even a manufacture rebate on them of some kind, just let us know and we'll make it happen."

7.) My youngest son looking at the tiny pocket .22 folding pistols with wide-eyes, after also looking at an AK-47 and commenting on how much smaller it looks in person.

8.) At Jiu-Jitsu, one student (ATF Agent) joking around with the Professor who responds with "Do you think you can get your pistol out of your car faster than I can get my Glock from behind the counter?" Same ATF agent doing after class drills & rounds in body armor and/or pistol belt to hone his skills while wearing what he does at work.

All-in-all, we love Texas. Everyone is polite, friendly, and well armed.
 
such a feel good story..... with a heaping of envy to go with it LOL

Real question.... and I am not advocating anyone break any laws..... just a question.
With the untold numbers of people entering the US illegally down south and being welcomed by the current US regime ...... why would it be any different crossing our border and doing the same thing all the people from down south are doing?
If just "getting out of Canukistan" is the goal.... sell everything, strap your cash to your body and a go bag and stroll on over LOL

what would happen if caught in the states and could a canadian not just claim "refugee" status like all the mexicans and south americans are doing?
I ponder these things sometimes LOL
A friend in Michigan has a 400 acre piece with 2 houses and has told me I could retire there no problem. Lots of deer and bear and fishing close by on the property.
It's tempting
 
45ACPKING said:
such a feel good story..... with a heaping of envy to go with it LOL

Real question.... and I am not advocating anyone break any laws..... just a question.
With the untold numbers of people entering the US illegally down south and being welcomed by the current US regime ...... why would it be any different crossing our border and doing the same thing all the people from down south are doing?
If just "getting out of Canukistan" is the goal.... sell everything, strap your cash to your body and a go bag and stroll on over LOL

what would happen if caught in the states and could a canadian not just claim "refugee" status like all the mexicans and south americans are doing?
I ponder these things sometimes LOL
A friend in Michigan has a 400 acre piece with 2 houses and has told me I could retire there no problem. Lots of deer and bear and fishing close by on the property.
It's tempting
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The things I see here that I'm not sure how you would overcome are all the requirements for supplying a Social Security number for everyday accounts (bank, loans, cellphone, rent/mortgage, jobs, driver's license, concealed carry, medical insurance, etc.) This was one of the big shocks for us, in Canada, you don't give anyone your Social Insurance number, here, it's your basic ticket to confirm legal status. The vast majority of employers use an automated system to confirm employment eligibility. If you had a ton of cash and could do everything entirely "off-the-grid" as it were, you would likely be able to live, but it would be extremely challenging. I can only suspect that the vast majority of people crossing the Southern border likely have in-roads into a parallel economy that Canadians wouldn't have. And far be it from me to suggest that there is any underlying political pressure to let these "future voters" in to destabilize...that's just crazy talk!

I'd be looking at options for visas related to purchase of businesses or TN1's for "in-demand" skill-sets as the quickest legal options to move to the US.

Not that I have ever looked at hiking maps of places that have trail systems that cross-over the border for camping and hiking with trail-heads on both sides...nope, never checked those out. Especially not on Google earth.

I would also look at ex-pat status in Mexico with half the year in the US and 1/2 in Mexico or other South American/Central American countries with investment visas. I have friends who have moved to Costa Rica and Mexico and have been reading about people relocating to several other countries as well.

One of the reasons that my gun import was slightly longer than typical is that so many Canadians are leaving that both the brokers and the US ATF are back-logged. That should tell you something.

Happy to answer any questions.
 
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