AR15 lower with just a tabletop mill!
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Thats fine, as long as you have it disassembled, nobody can do anything to you AND you have a fully functional (with a bit of assembly) AR15.
For the same reason why people climbed Everest. Because we can.
REALLY?
Ever seen one of these? No buffer tube. Works just fine.
jonnynitro said:
Cost!
$235 or so for a stripped lower.
$5 worth of aluminum from the salvaging yard, $1 worth of screws and your own labour (assuming you have access to the tools...).
Yeah, someone is going to go off and write a long post about milspec, forged, blah, blah, blah... But for a pliker AR or a short barreled gun, this will work fine as long as the machining is accurate enough and you use the right materials. A few guys I know in the US have even built target guns off of them and had decent results.
The RCMP forensic guys have already seen these receivers btw. A forensics guy brought it up as an example when I was talking to him about another matter. I don't remember what part needed to be registered, but the receiver was still considered a variant of the AR-15.
Don't think for a second that this will confuse them or that their determination will get stuck in limbo indefinitely. Their job is to assign classifications to firearms... they will do exactly that, and you may not like the result.
Suputin: No, I have not seen one of those. What is it?
I still think that the buffer tube portion of a KT-15-b would be the receiver. This would appear to be the main part of the entire assembly.
But then again, who knows?
Joe.
I still think that the buffer tube portion of a KT-15-b would be the receiver. This would appear to be the main part of the entire assembly.
But then again, who knows?
Joe.
Of course the assembled receiver is an AR15 but what is it when it is nothing but a bunch of flat plates?
What are they going to do, classify flat metal plates as a firearm receiver? That would make every metal tube in the country a silencer and every Home Depot an illegal weapons factory.
Disassembled, this thing is nothing and there isn't squat the RCMP can do about it. That is the problem with gun laws written by the ignorant.
ZM Weapons LR300 http://www.zmweapons.com/lr_300-ml-n.htm All the recoil assembly is inside the upper receiver like a Para FN.
But the LR300 has no buffer, so how can it be the receiver? Also as a previous posted noted, as soon as the system classifies a single piece as the "receiver", someone figures out a way to make that piece out of multiple pieces and we are back to where we started.
Lets face it, this thing defies classification because the system is junk. This is simply a perfect example of that problem but there are others.
I have a couple of Stens and there is no consensus as to what exactly constitutes the receiver of a Sten. I have had one registered by the serial number stamped on the mag well (a removable part) and another registered by a serial number stamped on the trigger guard. So which is correct and what exactly is the receiver or registereable part?
I have an FN FAL with a serial number on the upper and a different serial number on the lower. Both these numbers appear on the reg certificate. Could I figure out how to make a FAL upper out of steel plate and split my registered rifle into two new rifles with a single reg cert covering both? Possibly.
Again, the system is crap and even those charged with enforcing it haven't got a clue just how bad it is.
The part of the KT-15-b that accepts the buffer tube also contains the fire control parts. So I still say that this part of the KT-15-b would be the receiver.
I do agree with your other points re: classification.
I do agree with your other points re: classification.
