AR15 Registered as Receiver Only?

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Hoping for some experienced knowledge here. Is it legal to register an AR15 as receiver only even though it's complete? Since uppers can be switched back and forth I am curious.

If I take a lower registered as a 7.5" barrel to the range with a 14.5" upper on it do I have to have the 7.5" upper with it for transport?

Thanks for the assistance.
 
I called the CFO a few years ago when I had an AR registered as lower only. They said that when I finished the rifle I should call and give them all the details. I mentioned that I was planning on having a .22LR and 2x .556 uppers in different barrel lengths. Their advice was to not worry about what upper I had with the rifle, just keep the registration paper with it as that's all an officer would ever ask to see if it came up and wasn't likely to argue/know anything about calibers, barrel length etc. The person I talked to was unwilling to give that to me in writing.
 
speedjunkiesracing said:
All my ARs are registered as just lowers.
I think the law is, if the upper is on the lower for more than 30 days you have to register the whole gun.
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Yea I guess if it's a more "permanent" change then you're supposed to inform the RCMP, I guess just swapping out the upper is a temporary change, so in theory you don't need to call them
 
I have a registered lower, and it actually says on the paperwork that I must notify them and update the registration within 30 days of making a working firearm.

I asked them about the multiple uppers etc, they said to pick one upper and register it with that, then free to reconfigure it as I wish.
 
themarauder said:
The person I talked to was unwilling to give that to me in writing.
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I had a a similar response. Told them it didnt matter anyways as I recorded the call for liability and legal reasons. She then said I couldnt do that, and my response was, "funny, as I just did" and I hung up.
 
well i just did this and it was a HUGE PITA

1st lower was an eagle arms I put a colt smg 9mm 10.5" barrel on it (from an R0634)

well the FRT did NOT have an entry on a 9mm 10.5' barrel for eagle arms so they had to kick it up to the rcmp techs took them 3 weeks to call me wanted to know where i got the barrel from was it cut down ect

they did end up changeing it but it took 2.5 months from 1st call to getting new cert
 
Thanks for the replies. I am sure if I called the CFO or CFC I would get multiple answers depending on who answers the phone. I just worry about that ONE LE officer who may say, "that's not 7.5" long! Your in trouble now."
 
almost all my AR's are franken guns. i once called to change to from a receiver only to a complete rifle. after three follow up calls to get an update, i just gave up. that was 10 years ago. still registered, and it cannot change classification, since it will always be restricted.

shoot and enjoy
 
so if I bought a complete AR from Canada Ammo and I want to purchase a used upper in a different caliber and or barrel length, how does that work? Do I just take both uppers to the range with me?

And is it as simple as buying different uppers to change them over? Obviously with different mags for say .22LR or what have you...
 
The ones from Freedom ventures are registered as custom AR .... lol ... lower isn't even mentioned.... And im not wasting my time calling the CFO
 
Problem being, if you complete the AR and don't call to change the classification, you now have an unregistered restricted weapon. I think I saw an interview with one of the firearm lawyers about this, and when you complete the rifle, its basically a race between you and the authorities. Either you call in and get the classification changed, or they find it (ie if you go shooting and are questioned) and charge you for having an unregistered restricted. Leave it as is (frame or receiver only) and go shooting, your taking a big chance. You can claim the 30 days thing all you want, but in the mean time, all your guns are seized, and you end up in court having to prove that, going broke in the process. I don't agree with any of this, but it is what it is.

Then again, I could be wrong, ymmv.
 
Repro77 said:
Problem being, if you complete the AR and don't call to change the classification, you now have an unregistered restricted weapon. I think I saw an interview with one of the firearm lawyers about this, and when you complete the rifle, its basically a race between you and the authorities. Either you call in and get the classification changed, or they find it (ie if you go shooting and are questioned) and charge you for having an unregistered restricted. Leave it as is (frame or receiver only) and go shooting, your taking a big chance. You can claim the 30 days thing all you want, but in the mean time, all your guns are seized, and you end up in court having to prove that, going broke in the process. I don't agree with any of this, but it is what it is.

Then again, I could be wrong, ymmv.
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I don't believe this is correct. When I purchased the lower I still had to wait for a restricted transfer as the lower is classified as a restricted weapon even if it's incomplete. If you don't have a restricted PAL you can not purchased a stripped lower. An 80% lower would be different but I am talking about a registered lower.
 
Repro77 said:
If you complete the AR and don't call to change the classification, you now have an unregistered restricted weapon.
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The lower was never removed from the registry, once it is in, it's there until you decide to sell it or turn it in to the police; you can call in and change the description (i.e. add more details) but if you do not, it still remains a restricted, regardless.

With AR's I prefer the lower be the only thing registered as uppers can be swapped/sold on a whim. Remove the upper when storing if you are that concerned about it.
 
CdnCombatMedic said:
The lower is a registered restricted.....
A transfer was completed wasnt it?
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Yes, but as a "frame/receiver only". All I'm saying is take that out shooting as a complete, functioning firearm, and your taking a chance.

I wish I could find the podcast, but Ed Burlew talked about this once, and it was he who said it was a race between you registering it as a complete gun, or someone finding it before you did.

I'm not arguing the point, as its another idiotic technicality, but I'd rather call it in than take a chance myself. Your (we) are supposed to call, within 30 days, and report "any change to a frame or receiver that allows it to discharge ammunition"
 
Repro77 said:
Yes, but as a "frame/receiver only". All I'm saying is take that out shooting as a complete, functioning firearm, and your taking a chance.

I wish I could find the podcast, but Ed Burlew talked about this once, and it was he who said it was a race between you registering it as a complete gun, or someone finding it before you did.

I'm not arguing the point, as its another idiotic technicality, but I'd rather call it in than take a chance myself. Your (we) are supposed to call, within 30 days, and report "any change to a frame or receiver that allows it to discharge ammunition"
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Okay, so if what you are saying here, and above is correct (I have no idea either way, thats why I'm asking) if I wanted to add another upper to my AR-15, all I have to do is call the CFO and they will change the classification to be a multi caliber rifle?
 
Your registration certificate says you must report any change that...... "allows it to discharge ammunition".

Take that however you choose to.

Once you've reported it as an assembled firearm, you do not need to report any barrel length change. There is only a requirement to report a barrel length change if it changes the class of your firearm, which does not happen on an AR.
 
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