AR15 Registration Question

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Just wondering what the general consensus is on registering an AR15 is.

For example; I just aquired an AR15 and it is registered as a reciever only....so should I:

A.Notify the CFC of the current Upper/Lower configuration.
B.Leave it registered as a lower reciever only.
C.None of the above

Just wondering what I should do from a legal standpoint; in case I get carded.

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

Ryan
 
I am curious to see some responses also.

Mine is registered as just the lower.. and will stay that way. I don't always plan on leaving the 7.5" upper on it.

Thats just my 2cents.

Jeff
 
im leaving mine as receiver only because i can throw whatever upper i want on it, and it will always be RESTRICTED! (woot woot!! :mad:)

i seem to recall that for it to be receiver only, it cant be attached to the upper for more than 30 days at a time? (feel free to correct me if im wrong, i remember seeing something about that on a previous thread a year ago or so)

good luck!
 
To the best of my knowledge the lower is serial numbered and is the part that is concidered the "gun" by the powers that be. You can move uppers without any paper work in Canada, just as you can with barrels, barrel blanks, stocks etc. for rifles.
 
JPainter said:
I am curious to see some responses also.

Mine is registered as just the lower.. and will stay that way. I don't always plan on leaving the 7.5" upper on it.

Thats just my 2cents.

Jeff
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Same here, I have more than one upper in different barrel lengths.
 
Once you turn your lower into something that can shoot a bullet, you have 30days to notify the registrar of the change. Take what you want from that statement.

Scott
 
Maybe if you 're really paranoid about it you can have the reg. cert. ammended to read "Multi" under barrel length and calibre...

I had an O/U that came with two sets of barrels... the reg. cert did list "multi" under barrel length.

It is what it is. Adding a functioning upper is by no means a perminant install or modification to the frame/receiver.... We wouldn't want to pester the CFO/CFC every time an upper gets switched and I'm sure they don't want to hear from us about it either.
Leave it as is and don't worry.
 
After a day of shooting take the upper off and now it is just a lower again. When you want to go shooting again put the upper back on. That way it is not on for more than 30 days and you don't have to contact the CFC. I don't own one so I don't know how hard it is to remove and replace the upper but if it only takes a few min. then problem solved
 
andrew870 said:
do you need a PAL to by an upper?
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Technically; I don't think the regulations read that way. You need a PAL to purchase ammo or buy/use a firearm but an AR15 upper is not technically a firearm.

I was just wondering what would happen if I was ever asked to produce my paperwork at the range; as it reads 'FRAME/RECEIVER ONLY' if I would run into problems. I have never been asked to show any registrations/ATT's even proof of membership at my local club so this is basically a 'What if?' scenario.

Thanks for all the replies so far.
 
chrisward3 said:
or do we...? :cool::cool:
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No, we don't.

Really... there's no issue here.
If YOU wanna play smart ass and hassle the CFO hopefully they'll just tell YOU to pick a caliber and barrel length and stick to it.
Or more likely they'll come up with some half ass'd policy that limits everyone to one upper per lower...
Or maybe they'll use the fact that they can't keep track of how many complete AR's there are out there to help convince the gov't to ban and confiscate 'em all...

You try to f** with them they can f*** you back twice as hard.

But at least you'll show how impishly clever you are...
 
tbooker said:
After a day of shooting take the upper off and now it is just a lower again. When you want to go shooting again put the upper back on. That way it is not on for more than 30 days and you don't have to contact the CFC. I don't own one so I don't know how hard it is to remove and replace the upper but if it only takes a few min. then problem solved
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For a slow person it takes about 30 seconds to remove the upper, if your pins are really tight. As to the reg. don't worry about it, you aren't changing classification regardless of barrel length and as mentioned you have 30 days to notify the CFC. Who can tell if an upper has been on a rifle for 30 minutes or 30 days????;)

TDC
 
TDC said:
For a slow person it takes about 30 seconds to remove the upper, if your pins are really tight. As to the reg. don't worry about it, you aren't changing classification regardless of barrel length and as mentioned you have 30 days to notify the CFC. Who can tell if an upper has been on a rifle for 30 minutes or 30 days????;)

TDC
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The only thing faster is removing a Glock upper (slide) from the frame. Which brings up a good point, if you have a Glock 22 with conversion barrels that are different lengths due to threads or compensator slots, then that should probably be registered as a "frame only" too.
 
vader_z said:
Which brings up a good point, if you have a Glock 22 with conversion barrels that are different lengths due to threads or compensator slots, then that should probably be registered as a "frame only" too.
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Well really that's what they've done with every firearm..... It's the frame thats registered.... Listing other discriptive details is just gravy for the reg. system.

If confiscation day ever comes All they'll get from me is a bucket of stripped frames/receivers... everything else is just parts.
 
A Lieberal judge would interpret the 30 days as 30 days from the first instant an upper was attached to the lower. If you're found with the upper attached and a registration certificate that says "receiver only", you might have big problem........then again, you might not. In any event, the downside risk could be very costly, no matter what the outcome is. So you have to ask yourself - whats the worst that could happen? Can I afford it/do I want to get into it?
 
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