Are H&K's really worth the cash??
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DaveMachine
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- That one place with a cowboy complex
If you get your guns on the cover of Rainbow Six video games they automatically go up in value 500%
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- Port Perry/Toronto
Wow... I think this is the first reference to "teen asian concubines" I've seen on gunnutz.
In my neck of the woods, such experiences can be had cheaply compared to owning HK black rifles registered into the Canadian system.
On the prices in the EE... as other people have noted, it's just supply and demand. The "real" price of an semi-auto UMP with pinned 5-round mags (that is, minus the corporate policies - and mistakes - that have created this scarcity situation - where just a few of these firearms are registered into the Canadian system) is probably not much more than what we pay for something like an HK45 pistol - maybe $1,500. Marstar sells the MP5A3 for $1,950 to police agencies. The UMP is supposed to be a cheaper alternative to the MP5.
It's a bit like the B&T TP9... why don't people lust over that
"SMG"? Obviously it is because you can order as many of them as you want from Wolverine. Same with Swiss Arms, AR-15's, etc., etc. If we couldn't buy new ones, the ones that slipped throug the cracks would command high prices.
Now people are going to pay (and later hope that others will pay) premium prices for short barrel AR's with flash hiders, etc. because we can't get them out of the U.S. anymore. Same with Finnish "AK's" in the EE. High prices because you can't just order up a restricted AK from China for $300.
On the plus side, now it looks like we are going to be able to get Type 97 for a lot closer to what the "real" (non scarcity/ridiculous) price is ($850). We are also going to be getting Chinese M4's and other lower priced stuff.
Ever notice how those expensive rifles come up on the EE every few months anyway? These guys that put $6 to $10 K into them are just renting them. I could have probably bought 4 or 5 UMP's (9mm and .45), 2 or 3 G36's and 1 MP7 in the EE in the couple of years I've been on this board. At my home range I have not seen an MP7, but people certainly have UMP's, G36's (no not conversions, but we see those too), PS90's, PS2000's. If you want to rent one, no problem. I don't think they are all that rare - mainly becuase people don't keep them that long anyway.
I'd be all over the TP9 if it had 10 rounders. (WTF, the MP9 is a pistol.. why can't we use those mags.....)
I think that if you've got the money and want it enough, go for it. They're more of collectors items than anything else.
If you really wanted one bad enough, and didn't have the money, than a conversion would be the best option.
...AND looks dead ###y still.
A shooter here in GP did a particularly fine job on his. You can get one for $3-4k and shoot the dog s**t out of it.
But just like the Ford Shelby Mustang fakes, it will never earn nor keep equivalent worth. In the end. its still a bubba on a different gun.
Here's his rather nice forgery here. Alot of HDPS parts.
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I WILL grant you that it IS luxury pricing. While money is good, people will pay it. When the economy goes, so does the value.[/QUOTE]
I feel that the above quote touches on the real issue of "value".
Sure, there is a 'base' price to most things such as firearms and other hobbies, but the real value comes from what you get out of doing the fun stuff.
For me, it comes down to what you want to do and what your interests are.
I feel that the above quote touches on the real issue of "value".
Sure, there is a 'base' price to most things such as firearms and other hobbies, but the real value comes from what you get out of doing the fun stuff.
For me, it comes down to what you want to do and what your interests are.
Yah, I totally agree. I would have gotten a TP-9 a long time ago if it wasn't a 5 rounder. I think I'm going to end up getting a 9mm AR. 10 rounds is so much more palatable in a pistol calibre.
And given that there is a "pistol" TP-9 and a "carbine".... I don't get it. I'm a lawyer myself, and even I have given up on trying to understand our firearms laws. Firearms law has to easily be one of the worst written, most ambiguous areas of our law in this country. Worst of all, I believe at least some of it may be intentional.
The $7000 HK is SPF. So yes, they are worth it because someone paid it - Gone in 2 days.
I just spent about $6K in the last 3 weeks on guns and ####....I could have just as easily thrown it towards something like this. (next time)
...I had another $3K ready for a Sabre Rifle....but the losers @ Wolverine screwed that up.
(Not SPF by me)
I just spent about $6K in the last 3 weeks on guns and ####....I could have just as easily thrown it towards something like this. (next time)
...I had another $3K ready for a Sabre Rifle....but the losers @ Wolverine screwed that up.
(Not SPF by me)
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Some people have money to spend on these things... good for them.
I have people at my club drive up in BMW's pop the trunk to reveal 30k in guns and rifles. Plink for a hour or so and leave. Lots of deep pockets in places like TO, Ottawa and Montreal.
I work with a guy who drives a viper. It was worth every penny to him.
For most these guys are out of our grasp without serious lifestyle changes, for others its just a slight gasp.
Good for them.
I have people at my club drive up in BMW's pop the trunk to reveal 30k in guns and rifles. Plink for a hour or so and leave. Lots of deep pockets in places like TO, Ottawa and Montreal.
I work with a guy who drives a viper. It was worth every penny to him.
For most these guys are out of our grasp without serious lifestyle changes, for others its just a slight gasp.
Good for them.
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