Are Hunters really all that smart?

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The hunting world is full of salesmen.....guys that are there to sell their ideas and product. Will Primos, Knight, Shockey, Hale, Carlton, etc.....

The make a career out of selling/spokesman for products. They get invited out on different hunts, get equipment from companies, and are expected to write a story that benefits everyone.(and sells product) They make a lot of money and mostly live well. Good for them.

But if they broke their neck, or wrote a poor blog (Zumbo), what happens to them? Dropped like a hot potato I'd guess. Business is business.

I remember hanging on the words of the Jack Oconnors and Chuck Adams' of the world......and they didn't even have videos then.

I've come full circle. And if you have been paying attention to the EE over the past 2 yrs, you can see where Im going.....back to the basics. Didn't take me long to figure out I knew a helluva lot more about hunting than most of these guys. I've talked to most of them, even spent a few days with some. They know marketing. But most haven't been in the bush for years. They dress the part, but overall, it's closer to a Halloween costume than anything.

All of us have dreams of living in a large log cabin, hunting the world with unlimited funds, or having a company who will fund us, provided they get something in return. Think about the stuff you might not have if you had that life......(kids, wife, true friends, a dog)

So I go back to my original question "Are hunters really that smart"? I think we are.
 
The finmal straw for me with Knight and hale was about 10-15 years ago .
They had their mugs on the cover of White Tail Stragegies, with orange vests , rifles, etc.
Big article about how well they can shoot and how ell their calls worked.
I also had another mag. ( Bowhunter)
There was an article in there about how well they could shoot their bows, how well their calls worked etc.
The problem, was that the deer they were posing with in BOTH articles were the same ones!:eek:
All they did was remove their vests and replace their rifles with bows.
The idjits didn't even move the animals, and you coulld see a nice high game fence post in the background, if you new what you were looking at.
had it with those types since then....
Cat
 
I pay no attention to gimicky tradesfolk. They are there to make money, your right. And most people will buy that new whizbang gizmo that garuntees them to catch the fish or shoot the buck on the package. have you ever noticed how many types of deer pee in a bottle there is? Pee is pee. If I start peeing in a bottle and selling it as pee in estrus, pee in heat, pee in the 69, it's still pee. I confess, I like to read hunting and shooting magazines. I watch hunting shows and even buy some videos and dvd's. But I don't have a cabinet full of different deer calls, wonder rifles or attractants. I don't use burn sticks or high tech hunting clothing. I use a flashlight and not an LED. I've never owned a pair of neoprene waders, and don't plan too. My idea of power bait is a worm in a light socket. I use telephone poles for rangefinding, and my binocluars cost less than my net family income. I'm a salesman's worst nightmare. But my pee is still just pee. :onCrack:
 
it happens in every industry look at golf skiing snowboarding there all sports that are marketed towards well off people just like hunting people r just trying to make a living in the industry they love
 
My pet peeve on this issue is the massive marketing of camo. I've been hunting for years without it and just use tried and true basics. I don't think I need a wardrobe of camo. I get a big kick when I'm at the airport in S'toon in the fall and see all the Buckmaster wannabes get off the plane in their oh so fashionable camo outfits.

Camo Scammo !
 
powdergun said:
My pet peeve on this issue is the massive marketing of camo. I've been hunting for years without it and just use tried and true basics. I don't think I need a wardrobe of camo. I get a big kick when I'm at the airport in S'toon in the fall and see all the Buckmaster wannabes get off the plane in their oh so fashionable camo outfits.

Camo Scammo !
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I agree, to me, denim is always formal. :D
 
I can appreciate all the new gear. guys are always trying to improve/cut cost but this year they are gonna get a shock when I show up to the moose guiding camp with my 101yr old Win 92 in 44-40. Maybe they will feel sorry for me and the tips will improve.....lolMy whole idea of my post was to get guys to remember to appreciate what they have, dream a bit too, but live.I liken my attitude to the fact that there are fellas who will spend $50,000 on a new truck then say they cant go on a hunt of a lifetime. I tend to spend $15,000 on a truck and tuck the rest away and go on a hunt. My backwoods philosophy anyways.....althought at 310,000 km on my Dodge, my thoughts may change shortly......lol
 
You can try and take a short cut, believe in gimicks, or, you can pay your dues, and learn to hunt.
Learning animal behaviour, shooting skills, and concealment techniques takes time. Learning patience, can take a lot longer.
I've never been one for gimicks.
 
when i bowhunt i just wip it out and wizz on scrapes all the time, i get the best results with my own blend:) ive seen deer while in my stand smell the scrape that i urinated on and they dont run away they sit their forever and sniff.

the best part of it is that its free . i also build my stands out of old form boards and my camo is the cheapest stuff i can find and ive had deer stick around 20 feet away........now if i only had the proper tag when their around id be in business.

way to much stress on equipment these days.

and all these trophy hunters brag about how good they are the only thing they do more then the rest of us is devote time , sure i could prolly bag a nice big buck if i wasnt working 6 days a week during the season.

ye and im just as bad, im on here all the time asking about different guns and products, but sometimes its just nice to talk about hunting when theirs no open season.

cheers
matt
 
Over rated products

Just got back froim a photo shoot near where I grew up. I took a photo with 68 deer all within 200 yards. I will post the pic when I get It developed. Point being, I was wearing a red plaid jacket the whole time!!!
 
does this mean,that all the cammo i own is no good:eek: no wonder someone tossed them gloves out onthe trail..and i was dumb enough to pick them up..
woe is me:runaway:
 
Good thread huntinstuff. I had a bit of an experience with this sort of thing today. I purchased a new Leupold VXIII scope, the salesman was actually a real nice fellow. He did try his best to sell me the model with the Boone & Crocket reticle for an extra $100.00. I wanted to keep things as simple as possible and told him that I could easily estimate distance and hold over if need be. It rarely happens as if I choose the right point blank range and vital circumference, I mostly aim for center of the boiler room and that's all there is to it. I don't put down the camo clothing, but I don't use it myself except maybe straight white in the dead of winter. I get a kick out of those guys that show up at Wholesale, Russels or the gun show all dooded up in their camo gear, now that's funny. :rolleyes:
 
Are hunters stupid? No more than any other consumer.

Those guys you mentioned are there to promote and sell their stuff. Sure they are high profile types who talk the talk, ie salesmen.

Hunting and the shooting sports are an industry like any other, and in order for it to do well and survive, revenue needs to be generated and promotion is part of it.

There is nothing wrong with that, in fact I think it is good.

Pick up any sporting goods catalog and look at the firearm section.

What you need and what you want are two different things.

Those guys are there to help sell you what you want.
 
I may be new to hunting, but I'm not convinced about camo...maybe with wild turkeys, but not other game critters.

I can't even keep track of the number of times I have had deer walk almost into me while I was standing in one spot reading a map or a GPS. :eek: :)

And I pretty much wear only green cargo pants, and a good sweater... and of course an Orange hat or toque. :D
 
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huntinstuff said:
The hunting world is full of salesmen.....guys that are there to sell their ideas and product. Will Primos, Knight, Shockey, Hale, Carlton, etc.....

The make a career out of selling/spokesman for products. They get invited out on different hunts, get equipment from companies, and are expected to write a story that benefits everyone.(and sells product) They make a lot of money and mostly live well. Good for them.

But if they broke their neck, or wrote a poor blog (Zumbo), what happens to them? Dropped like a hot potato I'd guess. Business is business.

I remember hanging on the words of the Jack Oconnors and Chuck Adams' of the world......and they didn't even have videos then.

I've come full circle. And if you have been paying attention to the EE over the past 2 yrs, you can see where Im going.....back to the basics. Didn't take me long to figure out I knew a helluva lot more about hunting than most of these guys. I've talked to most of them, even spent a few days with some. They know marketing. But most haven't been in the bush for years. They dress the part, but overall, it's closer to a Halloween costume than anything.

All of us have dreams of living in a large log cabin, hunting the world with unlimited funds, or having a company who will fund us, provided they get something in return. Think about the stuff you might not have if you had that life......(kids, wife, true friends, a dog)

So I go back to my original question "Are hunters really that smart"? I think we are.
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Realized a while back that every sport I've ever got into had people selling crap and widgets, and the trick was to research the basics without getting sucked in by the big ads, buy something reliable, middle of the road, and not too fancy, at the knee of the quality/price curve, and figure things out with it.

People used to hunt with rocks and pointy sticks, and obviously did well enough to survive; we're here to prove it. They didn't have monster boomsticks with huge scopes, scent masking aftershave, designer cammies, eighteen flavours of deer piss, and ATVs.

I wish I knew how they did it.
 
A handful of people living in the blue zone, buy boatloads and boatloads of useless crap from the red zone and sell it at great profit to sheeple in the green zone.

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By useless crap, I refer to the myriad of different types of new camo, boots, calls and endless accessories the hunting media blasts us with each year.
 
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