Are Imperial Defence M4 Carbines any good?
- Thread starter neil754
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I tried one at my local range, he wanted to try my now sold SWMP15. It wasnt anything special. The trigger was decent. Finnish wasnt the greatest. Groups were pretty good at 100. Would I buy one, no. I think there are better ones for the price.
Stay away from those. Notice how they all disappeared.
I think they were brought in just to satisfy everyone that wanted a short barrel AR.
Kinda like a scam. Lets sell this junk for $1650..."Obama is gonna ban everything, buy your 10.5" AR NOW!!!"
Shooting Edge was saying how great they are and a good deal...Pft! "Buy now becuase US dollar will drive up pricing later"
Well here we are 9 months later.... Short barrel AR's are everywhere. Lots of Canadian ones Too.
RRA from $1300, Even P.O.F now, FN's, Knights, DPMS.....everything is in Abundance.
Yet 9 months ago we had a few select dealers crying the Sky is falling and just happened to have $1650 cheap no name rifles to sell. Go figure.
And if you search the threads on Imperial, there are a few, No one (dealers included) gave any answers as to the build quality of these rifles...makes you wonder
I would forget about them.
Spend the extra $200 and get the CMMG 16" Mid-Length. RRA makes a good Match or Varmit Rifle. Their standard rifle is just average.
CMMG gets high praise
I think they were brought in just to satisfy everyone that wanted a short barrel AR.
Kinda like a scam. Lets sell this junk for $1650..."Obama is gonna ban everything, buy your 10.5" AR NOW!!!"
Shooting Edge was saying how great they are and a good deal...Pft! "Buy now becuase US dollar will drive up pricing later"
Well here we are 9 months later.... Short barrel AR's are everywhere. Lots of Canadian ones Too.
RRA from $1300, Even P.O.F now, FN's, Knights, DPMS.....everything is in Abundance.
Yet 9 months ago we had a few select dealers crying the Sky is falling and just happened to have $1650 cheap no name rifles to sell. Go figure.
And if you search the threads on Imperial, there are a few, No one (dealers included) gave any answers as to the build quality of these rifles...makes you wonder
I would forget about them.
Spend the extra $200 and get the CMMG 16" Mid-Length. RRA makes a good Match or Varmit Rifle. Their standard rifle is just average.
CMMG gets high praise
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- Scarborough, ON
If you're gonna buy a bargain-bin AR just get a Norc and spend the difference on ammo.
Where does it say its milspec? And WTF is milspec?
The safety turns 180 degrees. That is not Milspec....and it sure isn't Normal!
Thankyou but I am going Rock River Arms for $1299 at Questar, no M203 cut out, but I refuse to even have a thought of ever carrying one of those things again, lol....bayonet lug for cool factor, but I will never use it, and it has a nice finish and they work, according to the DEA and other shooters on here.
Any Feedback on the Rock Rivers Guys.....Thoughts, opinions, experiences.....?
Any Feedback on the Rock Rivers Guys.....Thoughts, opinions, experiences.....?
I find it funny how the only people who slander this rifle don't own one, and few have actually fired them.
I have posted before on what I accomplished in Service Rifle with mine, as well as my 1,200 round (and counting, without being stripped, lubed or cleaned) reliability test (0 FTF and 1 misfeed due to an incorrectly inserted magazine).
This gun has a 10.5" barrel, chrome lined with bayo-lug, chrome internals, M4 Feed ramps, and in all respects a very capable, accurate and so-far, reliable platform.
The bolt carrier, bolt and related components are all chrome lined as well.
The revisionism on the price is BS as well. To claim that some sort of conspiracy was afoot to sell $1,600 rifles is crap. At the time, Remington VR-15's were going for $1,800 and bushmasters were $1,600 - $1,800 if you could find one in stock. FFS, at that time Pmags were going for $70 a pop in the EE and now you can't give them away for $35.
I stand by my purchase, its a great rifle, way more accurate with irons to 500 yards than I could ever shoot, fun, and because its a shorty, gets lots of attention when you shoot anything over 100 yards.
It does have a ####ty black paint-job over top of the anodizing. I believe its to cover the damage to the anodizing caused by the electroplated serial-number and maybe in an attempt to clean up any scuffing that may have occurred to the finish during assembly.
Also, there is about 1.5mm - 2mm of slop between the upper and lower. That's common to most commercial AR's and not a performance issue.
The trigger is definitely stiffer than most civilian AR's and benefited from some breaking in and liberal use of CLP until it burnished.
The charging handle is not finished to win any beauty contests.
My biggest beef is with the safety, which is configured internally (I think) like a 3-stage fire selector and you must flip it 180 degrees to fire, rather than 90.
Those that wonder if the IDS guns are any good, can determine for themselves if they want to rely on some armchair QB who handled one in a store once.
I make no claims that this is an RRA or Stag, but I am confident for the configuration and price, its a suitable alternative to a Bushmaster or Armalite.
However, rest assured, the IDS is NOT a Norinco and aside from the electro-penciled serial number, is machined well.
I have posted before on what I accomplished in Service Rifle with mine, as well as my 1,200 round (and counting, without being stripped, lubed or cleaned) reliability test (0 FTF and 1 misfeed due to an incorrectly inserted magazine).
This gun has a 10.5" barrel, chrome lined with bayo-lug, chrome internals, M4 Feed ramps, and in all respects a very capable, accurate and so-far, reliable platform.
The bolt carrier, bolt and related components are all chrome lined as well.
The revisionism on the price is BS as well. To claim that some sort of conspiracy was afoot to sell $1,600 rifles is crap. At the time, Remington VR-15's were going for $1,800 and bushmasters were $1,600 - $1,800 if you could find one in stock. FFS, at that time Pmags were going for $70 a pop in the EE and now you can't give them away for $35.
I stand by my purchase, its a great rifle, way more accurate with irons to 500 yards than I could ever shoot, fun, and because its a shorty, gets lots of attention when you shoot anything over 100 yards.
It does have a ####ty black paint-job over top of the anodizing. I believe its to cover the damage to the anodizing caused by the electroplated serial-number and maybe in an attempt to clean up any scuffing that may have occurred to the finish during assembly.
Also, there is about 1.5mm - 2mm of slop between the upper and lower. That's common to most commercial AR's and not a performance issue.
The trigger is definitely stiffer than most civilian AR's and benefited from some breaking in and liberal use of CLP until it burnished.
The charging handle is not finished to win any beauty contests.
My biggest beef is with the safety, which is configured internally (I think) like a 3-stage fire selector and you must flip it 180 degrees to fire, rather than 90.
Those that wonder if the IDS guns are any good, can determine for themselves if they want to rely on some armchair QB who handled one in a store once.
I make no claims that this is an RRA or Stag, but I am confident for the configuration and price, its a suitable alternative to a Bushmaster or Armalite.
However, rest assured, the IDS is NOT a Norinco and aside from the electro-penciled serial number, is machined well.
Yes. You will be happy with it.
The big Bonus is Mark @ Questar will support his clients.
If there is any issue (not likely) with your Rifle, Mark and his team is there.
Look at the CMMG Midlength. It includes a Rear Sight. HERE
I Have The MG45a6 10.5 Inch. It comes with Properly Stock BCG
+ A Bonus Chrome Finish,Very Well Made M4. HONESTLY MY FAVOURITE
ID ARs are junk.
-selector has to be rotated 180 deg to semi?
-feels very cheap.
Stick with CMMG, RRA you'll thank us later after you see one in person
oh yeh, if I had to choose btween a Norc or ID, I'll take Norc in a heart beat.
