Are magpul buis any Good?

84wh1 said:
As much as I respect others opinions, I definately will still be buying Irons. I've already got the rear Samson sight I just figured for 115$ on a front sight I could get a full set of magpul BUIS. The rifle will eventually get a good rds but not for now. Plus 115$ towards an 800$ Ti/ H1 won't get me very far.

I just recently got NTOA instructor credentials and ended up running irons for the full course so as much as I want I high end rds, I can live with irons for now. I've just never used magpul BUIS and was wondering if I'd be better off buying a set of them or sp Ning the same money a a single Samson front BUIS
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Well, my opinions on this will differ from what you've already been provided. The magpul flip up sights are good for optics such as scopes. They pop up quickly but they don't lock into place once up. They stay up by spring retention. Not an issue generally but it's part of the design as they are meant as an emergency backup sight that can fold under a scope. If you plan on running a RDS and will have them down the entire time then they will do fine. If you run a RDS with the iron sights fixed or flip up sights up all the time then you will want a 1/3rd cowitness and there are better options in this case than the magpul.

For a dedicated up all the time backup, Daniel defence, LMT are good. But... Troy is also good and can be folded down as well. The troy ones do lock in the up position. Another gem I picked up recently are the Fab defense/Mako brand sets. They don't pop up on a spring like the Magpul ones do. They also don't truly lock in but have a lot of resistance once they are in the upright position. They are a good compromise. However they aren't as good for a quick deploy emergency backup sight since they don't pop up like the magpul ones do and they don't lock upright as well as other options.

So three types/options for you. there are other brands as well. Plus the use of angled fixed iron sights is gaining in popularity. Especially with 3 gun or as seen with the LMT MWS for the Uk and New Zealand forces. This allows you to use fixed iron sights with a larger scope. But it does require tilting your rifle. A mini RDS is sometimes used the same way.
 
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84wh1 said:
At this point I will be mounting a cheapo bushnell trs25 until I save funds for a better rds. So the irons will definately still get used.
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Have a Bushnell TRS25 on my Beretta Storm .45acp and I really like it, there is a difference between cheap and inexpensive.
I find the Bushnell is inexpensive but definitely not cheap and have no plans of changing it out.
Oh and the MBUS work just fine as a BUIS.
 
cr5 said:
Skip the flip up sights all together and put that money towards a better optic. I have Magpul BUIS and MI BUIS and once I sight them in I never use them again. I do prefer iron sights on my AR-180B and my M305 but for my AR's they are mostly just on there because I already have them and couldn't be bothered to take them off.

Co-witness is pointless in my opinion so if you want irons on your rifle I would run quality non folding irons.
I would much rather run quality irons than a crappy optic. I've easily made hits all the way out to 500 yards with irons so a dot sight is not needed unless you prefer them.

If you want a dot sight I would suggest an EOTech XPS or EXPS, Aimpoint PRO, or Aimpoint T-1 or H-1. Any of those will serve you well and are reliable enough you will never need to use the BUIS. I always chuckle when guys say "but what it your optic goes down?" when was the last time a quality optic failed? If the battery dies? replace it. It's not like someone is shooting back at you so just carry a spare battery and if the sight dies send it in for warranty.
Too many mall ninjas pretending they will be using their civilian "battle rifle" (sporting rifle) somewhere overseas or in the zombie apocalypse.
Keep it simple, keep it light and you'll have fun all day with it every time you take it to the range.

Let's see some pictures of it :)
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First off they aren't battle rifles as they do not fire full power calibres, they use an intermediate calibre. They are not "assault rifles" either as they are not select fire.

Iron sights have their place and it is as a backup sighting method. The benefits of a reddot or optic are well known and undisputed. Where irons still shine is in their simplicity and their use during inclement weather. Heavy rain or humidity(or mud) makes the reticles on optics and reddots a bit of a challenge to see, this isn't an issue with irons. As for optics never failing, if that is your experience then you aren't running your gear hard enough. Dead batteries should never occur as the battery should be replaced at regular intervals regardless of use. For an Aimpoint micro series with a five year life, changing the battery every year will keep you running. Don't forget that the mount may be the point of failure and not the optic.

For the AR which is a range toy a set of irons isn't an absolute necessity unless you shoot outdoors(see the rain issue above), but for other guns that are not restricted and get used in the bush frequently, they most certainly are necessary.

TW25B
 
Lots of other people on here have already said it, but I'll throw my post count in the ring:

They're better than nothing, but not by a huge margin. If you're looking for real irons, buy real irons. If you're looking for emergency backups, the MBUS don't cost too much.
 
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