Are the Savage/Anschutz Mark 12 and the Anschutz 64 the same rifle?

[TrevorF]

Trying to find a stock for my Mark 12 and I'm see these rifles mentioned a lot in the same posts. Are they the same?

Thanks,
Trevor

 

[grauhanen]

The SA Mark 12 is a Flobert action rifle. See my post in your other "stock" thread.

 

[diopter]

I have quite a few Anschütz rifles.
Two are marked as a "Mark 12"
One is almost exactly as another one marked as a Model 2000, see this link and note the acorn shaped bolt shroud.
http://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/downloads/Ersatzteile/EN/ET_Mark2000_1982-05-01_EN.pdf?downloads

The other is a Junior Achiever rifle that also use the acorn shaped shroud.
These bolts are shorter the the 64 model and are not interchangeable with the 64's(CIL 180 &190's)

The Mark 12 and Model 2000 below.

With Cil 190's

This shows the acorn/wasp waisted bolt shroud on this Achiever.

 

[Engineer]

I have quite a few Anschütz rifles.
Two are marked as a "Mark 12"
One is almost exactly as another one marked as a Model 2000, see this link and note the acorn shaped bolt shroud.
http://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/downloads/Ersatzteile/EN/ET_Mark2000_1982-05-01_EN.pdf?downloads

The other is a Junior Achiever rifle that also use the acorn shaped shroud.
These bolts are shorter the the 64 model and are not interchangeable with the 64's(CIL 180 &190's)

The Mark 12 and Model 2000 below.

With Cil 190's

This shows the acorn/wasp waisted bolt shroud on this Achiever.

Holy smokes, no wonder 190's are hard to find, you have them all, LOL.

Seriously nice collection. I belive the Achiever and m2000 are called a Flobert II Action, if I'm not mistaken, and it's smaller action than the 64. Here is a picture I took from another sight comparing the actions.

 

[metalbender]

64 action has the bolt handle in line with the trigger. Lesser actions, the bolt handle is ahead of the trigger. In the US there was a Woodchucker with the lesser action, although very well thought of as a quality shooter.