Are you a powder HOARDER? Am I? Is your buddy?

I'm far from needing powder, I have enough, but really... Really? Some of you guys are a little high and mighty about no sympathy for those that did not have a stock of powder from back when time began.
Did any of you stop and think, HEY wait a sec... there are guys that shoot 20K + rounds a year for competitions and go through powder like there is no tomorrow. The max allowable would not keep them in supply for long.
OR, the new shooter, you know the one... the future of the sport.

To sit and gloat on your superior prowess and belittling others just screams of poor character, welcome to the internet!
 
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I'm far from needing powder, I have enough, but really... Really? Some of you guys are a little high and mighty about no sympathy for those that did not have a stock of powder from back when time began.
Did any of you stop and think, HEY wait a sec... there are guys that shoot 20K + rounds a year for competitions and go through powder like there is no tomorrow. The max allowable would not keep them in supply for long.
OR, the new shooter, you know the one... the future of the sport.

To sit and gloat on your superior prowess and belittling others just screams of poor character, welcome to the internet!
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The serious competition shooters, aren't the guys that are running out of powder. Like many of us, most of those guys have been through component shortages before, and they plan ahead , in case of future shortages. As to the new shooters, they may run short of supplies, once or twice, but the smart ones will learn from that experience, and start to plan ahead, just like most of us more experienced shooters did. If they don't learn from their experiences, then too bad for them.
 
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To sit and gloat on your superior prowess and belittling others just screams of poor character, welcome to the internet!
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Welcome to CGN? This is all pretty much normal around here.
I'm greatly surprised this has gone 11 pages without someone screaming "THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER! THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER!" like someone normally does in these threads.
Also if you have a detached shed you can store quite a bit more powder; an extra 75kg or something like that? And I think that's per shed.
Most of the time the advice here goes something like "if you're new, tough, you should have started earlier". School of hard knocks and all that.
Many people seem to automatically assume that anyone who doesn't have powder is just someone who doesn't know what they're doing. They seem totally ignorant of the fact that some people started reloading during the current shortage and haven't had a chance to stockpile anything as of yet.

I'm not saying I agree that it's a good system, only pointing out that that's just CGN.
 
just like to point out a few things. im no expert but im sure ive read that the legal limit is 12kg. also all powder must be stored in an air tight wooden box with no metal fasteners.
 
loknife said:
just like to point out a few things. im no expert but im sure ive read that the legal limit is 12kg. also all powder must be stored in an air tight wooden box with no metal fasteners.
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The actual laws have been posted several times in this thread already specifically pointing out that they were changed in 2013.
There is no requirement for wood with non-ferrous fasteners. I have no idea where this misconception came from since I hear it quoted so often but no one has been able to provide a link or reference to an actual regulation.
A locked steel cabinet that is kept clean and used only for the storage of powder is perfectly legal.

The actual current law was quoted in post #71
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...your-buddy?p=11084541&viewfull=1#post11084541
 
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The actual laws have been posted several times in this thread already specifically pointing out that they were changed in 2013.
There is no requirement for wood with non-ferrous fasteners. I have no idea where this misconception came from since I hear it quoted so often but no one has been able to provide a link or reference to an actual regulation.
A locked steel cabinet that is kept clean and used only for the storage of powder is perfectly legal.

The actual current law was quoted in post #71
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...your-buddy?p=11084541&viewfull=1#post11084541
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i know ive read somewhere about the wood box. i wouldnt have made one if i wasnt fully convinced it was necissary. wood is an insulator. steel is not. weather its law or not its a good idea.
 
Many people seem to automatically assume that anyone who doesn't have powder is just someone who doesn't know what they're doing. They seem totally ignorant of the fact that some people started reloading during the current shortage and haven't had a chance to stockpile anything as of yet.
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I started two people out reloading during the current shortage, and although it took some effort on their part, they found the powders , brass, bullets, and primers that they needed, and both now have enough components to last them a few years. The reason that they found what they needed, is because they didn't just check a few local stores and then give up like many people do. Instead they made many phone calls, and sent many e-mails, until they found what they were after. I purchased a couple of new rifles, and I wanted to find a couple of powders that I didn't already have supplies of . I also needed some brass that I didn't already have, and I found what I needed in the same manner, by calling and e-mailing dealers all across Canada, until I found what I needed. Yes it took time and effort on my part, but if you really want certain components, you can usually find them somewhere in Canada. Unfortunately, the prices have gone up considerably, so it will cost a person more these days to obtain those components.
 
http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/legal_info_for_reloaders.html

info from 1990....
The storage of gun powder is regulated by the explosives act, r.S.C. 1990. you may keep a maximum of 12 kg. In a dwelling if it in a suitable container. this is specified to be a box of 3/4 inch thick wood, no ferrous fittings (use brass, bronze, or glue), be locked and labelled aexplosives@. only 2 kg. Can be out of the box at any one time to be used. this means that when you are finished reloading you must return the unused powder to the locked box. the ministry of energy mines and resources recommends that anyone who contravenes this be charged under the criminal code with unsafe storage of ammunition. to the ministry there is no distinction between black powder and smokeless powder. primers are to be similarly stored.


ill have to look into the revised 2013 regs.
 
this is from the revised laws.....


Up to 12.5 lbs (5.67 kg) of black powder may be stored in original manufacturer’s containers or
other suitable packaging such as powder horns, as loaded cartouches in ammunition pouches, flasks and
primer flasks; plastic jugs; or other similar containers. More than 12.5 lbs (5.67 kg) in the manufacturer’s
containers or other suitable packaging such as powder horns, flasks and primer flasks; plastic jugs; or
other similar container must be stored in a home magazine, or a detached store, which could include a
freezer or other insulated or wooden box with a loose fitting lid.


https://nfa.ca/sites/default/files/Explosives Act comments from CNFA 2012 (Draft 5) (2).pdf
 
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I reloaded my first bullet on the weekend (45 auto) as I just got my RCBS kit last week. I've been gathering components for about a month and have been able to pull together about 8lbs of pistol powder. It's out there if you are creative :)
 
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loknife said:
http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/legal_info_for_reloaders.html
ill have to look into the revised 2013 regs.
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Not really.. you just need to read the thread before you comment :) This has been discussed several times already. There is nothing in the new regulations about the 3/4" box, no ferrous fittings, etc.

I built one anyway, since it seemed like a good idea. I live in an apartment and my powder sits on top of my dresser at the foot of my bed :)
 
I think that if you are sitting on a lot and not shooting because then you wouldn't have it anymore, you're probably a hoarder. If you're sitting on a bunch and you're using it you're just a guy with lots of powder. If you have 50000 primers and no powder you might be a hoarder, but you are more likely a panic buyer who is now pretending to be a hoarder. If you've got a ton of powder and primers but no bullets then you may not have thought this through all the way.
 
NOPE. Every time a limited amount comes up for sale I buy less than the max. I take the view that there are a ton of reloaders out there that also need powder, so I share. That's just me and it's up to everyone's own opinion on what to do. Just a little, Pay It Forward !
 
I was in a nice position before the shortage hit, and haven't been doing a huge amount of shooting the last couple of years, so I am still in pretty good shape. I have at least 5 lbs each of the powders I use most, and 3 lbs or more each leftover lots, of others I have acquired over the years, and pickup some here and there to refill stocks as req'd. It is nice to be able to wait til I see what I want and grab some to keep topped up on.
Just had an oldtimer give me about 5 lbs of the old H4831, and some 4064, 4198 and 3031 last month.
It's also nice to be at the right place at the right time.
 
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