Are you happy with your M1A?
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I have a Loaded that I got from another member. love it!
That trigger is extremelly crisp.
the only upgrade tha I might get is a bedding. Already have a bipod on it. I had a Norc before, not anymore!
Yes and No.
I was not satisfied with the geneseo and taiwanese parts I paid 2200 dollars for a few years back. It worked fine but there's no way it was worth that kind of money.
I loved my older M1A I had in the late 90's as it was all USGI parts, shot like a dream and actually was worth 2000 plus dollars.
I was not satisfied with the geneseo and taiwanese parts I paid 2200 dollars for a few years back. It worked fine but there's no way it was worth that kind of money.
I loved my older M1A I had in the late 90's as it was all USGI parts, shot like a dream and actually was worth 2000 plus dollars.
My uncle has an M1A he bought right after he joined the Forces, in 1987. It was used but loved, and he paid less than retail value for it. I believe it was made in the early 80's. For that rifle, I would gladly pay 2000+ dollars. It shoots like a dream, which has to be one of the reasons he still has it.
Would I pay 2000+ dollars for a new manufacture M1A? No.
Would I pay 2000+ dollars for a new manufacture M1A? No.
The new Springfield M1A rifle parts are not made in the USA and they have cast receivers, not worth the money in my opinion .. the Norinco has a fully forged receiver like the USGI M14 , there are no cast parts .. your better off buying a Norinco and dropping in a quality US made barrel and replacing the sights and stock with USGIs .. you could also get the chinese markings removed from the receiver and re parkerize it.. With the cost of the rifle parts and gunsmith it will cost you less than a M1A and you will end up with much better rifle. Remember Springfield Armory is not even the same company or the same factory as when they were making M14s and Garands for the government .. The name was bought by a private firm when the government shut down the factory in the 60s..
Rocket Surgery
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Are the standard Springfield M1A rifles more accurate than the m305's we tinker with? I heard the national match can achieve .5moa, what about the $2000.00 model?
What do they do differently on the national match? Just the stuff we do to accurize our Norincos?
What do they do differently on the national match? Just the stuff we do to accurize our Norincos?
Yea me too but the USGI M14 receiver is prohibited status but we can own all the the other parts and build a rifle with a norc receiver
out of the box im guessing the M1a is more accurate , but the M305 is $400 compared to $2000 .. if a guy spent that difference on the Norc buying a match grade barrel , sights ect, I would be a better rifle overall . im sure someone here has .5 moa norc build.
More like 3000 with a 6 + month wait. Then you'll have to purchase the mount, optics, and a stock possibly ?
For that money a custom build LRB/Krieger/JAE (Sage) or Poly/Kreiger/JAE (Sage) with mount & optics for the same price as the base Springer cast model.
No comparison. Even the guys in the states would choose the LRB or Poly option ( if they had it ) They are scouring for old model Poly/Norcs pre-ban that sell for 900+ US (stock)
They know a correctly heat treated hammer forged receiver is worth the cheddar.
An LRB hammer forged receiver alone will set you back $ 900 US.
SEI has one in the coming, no price, but it can't be shy of the LRB
A hammer forged Op Rod $ 220 US.
Bolt $ 180 US.
Gas System $ 110 US........
That's $ 1410 US without anything else. NO barrel, no stock, no trigger assembly......nada
We have it made up here.
If they could get what we can get (Poly 2009+) they would jump at it.
They cry when they hear that we get the complete package for $ 450 CAD
If I could import them down there, I'd set up shop in a HEARTBEAT
+1
I love my 2001 loaded which came with all USGI parts. But if I was to get one with all commercial parts, I'd turn to import a rifle from LRB.
The NM models shoot better because of the aftermarket barrels that come on them (Douglas or krieger heavy barrels) which has little to do with who made the rest of the rifle. You can buy those pipes seperately and screw them onto your receiver of choice.
In my experience all the standard barrels shoots around the same as they are all a thinner profile. Accuracy really comes down to tuning so the action runs consitently shot to shot and finding ammo that your particular rifle does well with.
Yes accurizing is the same voodoo (unitizing, tuning, bedding, ect).
i know this is going to ruffle a LOT of feathers, but having a premium barrel like a kreighoff or other on a gun DOES NOT make it shoot better- you can't simply slap a "better" barrel on there and make it shoot better than moa anymore than you can replace a carter carb with a holley and make the car go faster- it's an COMBINATION of factors that make a gun shoot well, not just one- incidentally, one of the ROUGHEST m14s that i have is a springfield armory, and that includes a norc- i have 4- the finest and most smooth is a trw, which looks like it's factory fresh- anybody that buys a springfield on reputation alone is very close minded, imo- with proper LOAD DEVELOPMENT the norc can be made to shoot right with the springfield, right out of the box- i've done it
I LOOOOOOOOOVE how these faacken threads turn into Springfield and norc compare blahblahblah ... the OP asked if we're HAPPY with our M1A's ... I sure am thank you! 
Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA
p.s. I'm also happy with my Norc ...
Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA
p.s. I'm also happy with my Norc ...
i've had both. a standard m1a springfield (back in the mid 90's) and a norc. i honestly didn't see much differance. i think in some cases your paying for a preceived name possibly.
t-star i think your 100% right. instead of paying x-amount for the latest bells and whistle. why not learn the fundamentals of shooting and just practise? if you train and use proper skill any thing can be deadly.
i remember a sgt in battle school. feaking out on the guy next to me. buddy couldn't qualify on the fn. kept saying the sights were off, the rifle is warpped ect. the sargent said give me the fuc*en thing. at the standing position at the 200 m mark, he was hitting close to center. when i say that, i mean the but party was indicating the hits were inpacting center of mass. i don't mean .5 mao at 200m in the standing position with a service rack grade weapon.
as a kid, i practiced and still do with pellet and bb guns. may seem funny but you have to learn how to adjust your aim for basic sights, wind, trajectory, ect.
hope it doesn't sound like a rant, not ment to.
t-star i think your 100% right. instead of paying x-amount for the latest bells and whistle. why not learn the fundamentals of shooting and just practise? if you train and use proper skill any thing can be deadly.
i remember a sgt in battle school. feaking out on the guy next to me. buddy couldn't qualify on the fn. kept saying the sights were off, the rifle is warpped ect. the sargent said give me the fuc*en thing. at the standing position at the 200 m mark, he was hitting close to center. when i say that, i mean the but party was indicating the hits were inpacting center of mass. i don't mean .5 mao at 200m in the standing position with a service rack grade weapon.
as a kid, i practiced and still do with pellet and bb guns. may seem funny but you have to learn how to adjust your aim for basic sights, wind, trajectory, ect.
hope it doesn't sound like a rant, not ment to.
Love it.
I have had my M1A for close to 15 years now and it still works flawlessly. I even managed to win a medal at precession match using the iron sights at 100 yds. Well worth the money for me.
I have had my M1A for close to 15 years now and it still works flawlessly. I even managed to win a medal at precession match using the iron sights at 100 yds. Well worth the money for me.
