Arg, can't decide on rings and base for rem. 700.

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Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, but I'm trying to get into precision shooting and just bought a nikon monarch scope (6.5-20 44mm) for my rem. 700 (short action). Wondering if anyone could give some advice to me I know pretty much squat about bases and rings, even though i've tried to research a lot Looking to eventually shoot up to 1000 yards in clearcuts etc. But I don't want to have such a degree of angle on my scope that I won't be able to shoot at 300 yard targets etc. Make sense? Probably not.
I beg for knowledge! Thanks
 
Trust you are not talking about hunting shots to 1000y in a clearcut.... A mount set that will work fine for shorter through longer range zeros are the Burris Signature rings with eccentric inserts on a Burris/Redfield/Leupold base.
 
I wish I had paid more attention to this matter. I just got my first rifle built by a smith in 6mm. BR. on a remington action. The action came with a tapered rail. Scope a 8x32 burris black diamond. Took it out to break in barrel and sight in and was most unpleasantley surprised to find out that at 100 meters and elevation adjustment on scope as low as it goes I was still 7" high at 100.
 
Grand slam bases are great S35 and S36 are the numbers, steel bases. IF a very solid hookup is req'd , then Leupold sells weaver style rings to fit for a super solid mount system that is very strong. The next step would be those costly sniper type setups.
 
A lot of otherwise fine scopes lack the adjustment range to permit zeros from 100 to 1000 without help from the mount system. A tapered base can give a long range zero, but the scope may run out of "down" before a short range zero can be obtained.
 
Check out the TPS line:

http://www.tacticalprecision.com/index.htm

The Burris Rings - signature with bushing insert kit works well and does not require lapping of the rings for final perfect fit verification. With the Bushing kit you get various inserts to give you the full normal range of taper - MOA to get you out to 1000. I don't think they look as nice as the TPS line - HRT rings or the TRS/W, but they do offer you lots of flexability.

Weaver Steel Grand Slam bases are tough and reasonably priced. No moa adjustability but with the Burris Rings and an Offset kit you are okay with lots of adjustability.

Farrell bases are offered in a variety of moa 5 /10 /15/20 / 25/ 30 etc. THey are not made to true Picatinny specifications but you can order them to match.

We stock all these products.

Regards,

Joe
 
I put Ken Farrell rings and one piece base on my 338 RUM Sendero and they are excellent. If I was to do it again I would go with their matched rings and base set, see link for info. They are not cheap but quality seldom is. Just add www to link below:

http:// .kenfarrell.com/00186.html
 
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I picked up TSR rings from ### Int (above) and you cannot beat the price/performance of the rings and certainly not the service from ###.


Shameless plug: Look for them on my 50Bmg when complete....:D
 
I am also a big fan of Ken Farrell bases and rings. While I want to take nothing away from the sponsors and local businesses, the farrell's are exceptional. The bases are cast iron and are quite resistent to temperature changes. Shipping within days and no problems with X border shopping.
 
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I am also a big fan of Ken Farrell bases and rings. While I want to take nothing away from the sponsors and local businesses, the farrell's are exceptional. The bases are cast iron and are quite resistent to temperature changes. Shipping within days and no problems with X border shopping.
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+1 for this....I have this base with Leupold Quick Release 30mm rings, holds ZERO with no problems :)...
 
Near manufacturing bases are very.....very nice and Canadian made. Richard also makes some nice rings. TPS are the best value and available in aluminum to save weight. You can't go wrong with ### Internationals service for TPS products.
 
Obtunded said:
I am also a big fan of Ken Farrell bases and rings. While I want to take nothing away from the sponsors and local businesses, the farrell's are exceptional. The bases are cast iron and are quite resistent to temperature changes. Shipping within days and no problems with X border shopping.
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You might want to review your sources on how Farrell makes their bases. I am confident you will find they are NOT Cast Iron.

Obtunded - Where did you pick up the thermal resistance topic? I would be interested in hearing about this since as far as I can tell Ken's parts no are more resistent to temperature changes then any other manufacturer's parts. For this to be possible, they would have to be insulated and or made from significantly different materials.

If you are looking for bases that are made to a specification, I.E. picatinny or 1913 bases, Ken Farrell's bases are not the ones you want to buy as standard issue:eek: . They are made to Ken Farrell's standard. The intent on the universal standard is to allow you to use a variety of brands fitted to a standard issue rifle.....ideally without problem (fit, change in point of aim etc...) when you change the scope/rings over from one rifle to the next or simply change out the scope/rings. I'm confident our military experts could give you the exact reasons. As far as this standard goes with Ken's bases, you need to special order bases 1913 spec. bases from Ken Farrell if you want them to be made to 1913 Mil. spec:confused: . The beauty of Ken Farrell's bases is that he offers them for a large range of rifles, they are nicely made, and priced very well:) . In most instances, the problem with them is that they tend to be very high and tend to reduce your mounting flexibility.

Warne tactical, and TPS make fairly low bases with Warne offering a wider range of bases (variety of actions - SAKO TRG etc.....)

Yes, Richard Near bases, Nightforce bases and Badger bases are nice but once you see the prices you quickly realize why TPS, Farrell and Warne are so popular.

To date we have not had one TPS or Warne base returned.
 
Mil Spec Picatinny 1913 bases are important for Military firearms since you might want to use a few different sighting systems on the same rifle even in the same day and you want the zero to remain constant with each sight system change. If you are not using someting like an EOTECH during the day and switching to a night vision scope that night it doesn't really matter if the rings and bases you buy are MIL-STD-1913. For the most part people buy them for the cool factor since they feel they are better but if you are not constantly changing optics there is no point and you are probably spending extra money that you don't really need to.
 
Silverback, thanks.

In this instance, there is no extra cost to go to the standard. If you have more then one rifle, I can see why you might want to keep to standard. Since Farrell makes them to his standard, which is different, people who wish to use multiple rifles or bases/optics should be aware of this.

On a shameless plug......we are celebrating the Canada Weekend (ends Monday) by ......covering the GST (6%) on the instock TPS product line.
 
I am having the same problem deciding what ring/base to use on the 10FP I'm saving for.

Is there any drawback to using the Weaver brand bases (accuracy wise)? They're steel and very inexpensive. Would those bases be fine with a set of steel TSR-W rings?
 
The Weaver Grand Slam bases (which we carry as well) are solid mounts. A bit less weight and they do not have a taper if you decide to shoot long range. You will be limited to the internal adjustments in the scope.

The TPS TSR fit the Weaver Style bases well. I would recommend going to the high grade 7075 al. Stronger then the steel and lighter. Ring expands nad contracts with the scope tube (aluminum). Alum rings also save you $$$.

I have yet to have any TPS product returned.... now thats not a challenge.
 
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