Article: 3 Point Slings

I can't for the life of me visualize what he means by:-

"Once the stirrup connection is on in the back of the buttstock and the forward end connected to a side-mounted sling swivel, the shooter will notice two straps running lengthwise along the side of the weapon. One strap is closer to the weapon than the other. The shooters head and nonfiring arm go between the two straps, causing the weapon to hang across the body with the buttstock of the weapon meeting the pocket of the shoulder."

Is he saying that the outside supporting strap goes over the RIGHT shoulder (for a right-handed shooter) when on patrol? :confused: I know that a Single-Point sling should go over the right shoulder, but a 3-Point? It seems more natural and functional to put the "outside" sling over my LEFT shoulder.
Bear with me here, guys....I'm "Parade Sling"-trained old soldier. Don't want to show up at the next Tac Rifle match with the equivalent of a helmet on backwards. :p
 
Six Star said:
..... Don't want to show up at the next Tac Rifle match with the equivalent of a helmet on backwards. :p
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Why not? After running into a few barricades you'll soon discover the problem
;) :D

Outside strap goes over LH shoulder, inside strap goes under RH shoulder (for RH shooter). Butt remains against the armpit. At no time (correct carry) is your body to be between the two lenghts of sling and the rifle, as if you had a regular two point (or as you say :p ) parade sling.

Regards,
 
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Ahh..thanks. That's how I rigged my new BFG 3-Point sling and how I "slung" my AR. I don't know why the writer of the article didn't just say what you said. :)
 
Ok. I got the two QD swivel attachments for my BFG SOC-C sling from One Shot Tactical and finally got it set up in its 3-Point Sling mode. It took a while and at least once I looked like a trussed-up chicken with an AR, but I finally figured it out. :D
This BFG sling is a serious piece of kit that is really quite ingenious...
Thanks Farmboy! :)
 
but it still won't help your shooting
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Six Star
The author of the article has described the correct way of wearing a 3 point sling when you are actually using the rifle. The sling should run diagnally across your back from your right shoulder going down to your left side. Just as the author described put your head and your non-firing (left) arm through the large loop created by the sling. Once properly adjusted you will see the difference and never go back to the admistration carry as described by Boomer686.
 
ZuluMike said:
Six Star
The author of the article has described the correct way of wearing a 3 point sling when you are actually using the rifle. The sling should run diagnally across your back from your right shoulder going down to your left side. Just as the author described put your head and your non-firing (left) arm through the large loop created by the sling. Once properly adjusted you will see the difference and never go back to the admistration carry as described by Boomer686.
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I need a picture of the above. :redface:
When you say "using" the rifle, do you mean actually shooting or "make ready" condition?
 
Yeah, these things are the HEAT right now. I believe Specter-Gear (formerly known as CQB Solutions) supplies the US DoD. I just ordered a Specter CQB with easy-release buckle for those SHTF situations. It's for my 20" A4.
 
I also just picked up one of these and I have no idea how I am managing to #### up the fairly straightforward directions on the Spectre website and above. It's either because I'm missing some step or I'm not figuring something out or because I'm try to swap everything around (being a lefty) but I'm gonna need some serious instruction on this...
 
Six Star said:
Well, it took a while, but I got it figured. :D
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Do tell...

I'm thinking that I'm getting the hang of this, but I'm getting the feeling I'm just making stuff up and it's not right.

Here's what I've got...

Ok, first, so that you're clear and I'm clear about what we've got going on...

Strap A is the strap that runs length of the rifle. There is a buckle that is adjustable that controls how far back towards the butt of the rifle the forward buckle of Straps B & C is. Straps B & C basically form one looped strap, B being the one inside, C the one outside.

'Strong side' is the side with your shooting hand, the one you use to pull the trigger, 'weak side' is the other side, just to prevent any confusion of right/left.

A1) Strap B/C is over strong side shoulder running diagonally under weak side arm, the rifle lies flat against body pointed down, pistol grip is center of mass and depending on adjustment of buckle on strap A points from about 15 degrees (buckle on strap A forward) to straight down (buckle on strap A further back towards butt of rifle).

A2) Starts same as A1, but then seperate strap B/C and place weak side arm between strap B and C so that strap B is above weak side shoulder and strap C is under weak side arm. Rifle now sits closer to strong side with pistol grip on strong side of stomach.

B1) Strap B/C goes under strong side arm runs diagonaly up toward weak side shoulder and over weak side shoulder. Rifle butt is just under armpit and the rifle faces somewhat forward.

B2) Start same as B2 but then slip strap C off weak side shoulder so that it is under weak side arm - weak side arm is now between B & C.

B1 carry seems to be the quickest transition from slung to ready but the least comfortable slung. When ready the straps are not snug.

A1 is quite quick to transition and much more comfortable then B1. When ready the traps are snug and there is some tension.

B2 seems the slowest to transition as Strap B & C move through forward buckle, strap B shortens while C lengthens coming up to ready and the reverse going back to slung. It also feels less comfortable then A1 or A2 but more comfortable then B2. When ready the straps are snug and there is some tension.

A2 seems the most comfortable slung, even more so then A1. The transition is quite fast, similar to A1, but the straps are loose when ready.

So, I think that comfort when slung, speed of transition and having the straps snug when ready are all desirable attributes. But none of the above have all three...


............Comfort............Speed..........Snug
_________________________________________
A1............+......................+................+

A2............++....................+................-

B1............--......................++..............-

B2............-........................-................++

As you can see from my handy-dandy chart, I don't know which one is right or which one to choose...

Argh...Help!

Getting really frustrated here...
 
Obviously we need a meeting, a consultant, and a grant from the Feds....:p

I guess what it boils down to is what you want the sling to do under the circumstances that you're actually wearing it, and what your requirements are for that sling and that particular configuration.

I wanted a sling that could be all 3....a Single Point, a 2-Point and a 3-Point. Compromise usually results in a product that doesn't do anything particularly well, but the BFG SOC-C sling is a unique product that actually does manage to do all three jobs very well. The instructions aren't bad, but could be greatly enhanced by a few larger, more detailed photos of the various configurations to help amateur users like me to 'get there', unaided by a barrack-room full of goofs to 'help me out'.
"Comfort" is nice, but it isn't likely, as any military-type gear is a PITA to wear at the best of times. What I was looking for was simple utility.
Again, I have difficulty visualizing your descriptions (that's me, not your excellent descriptions) and need to see what you're talking about.
I'm taking my AR with the new sling to TMSA this afternoon. :)
The only criticism that I have with the 3-Point configuration is that "Strap A" may catch on a chest rig or other equipment when bringing the rifle up to fire. I'll watch for that to see if its a real problem or not.
 
Just think if you would have got a single point sling it would have took all of 5 sec to work it out :);)
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Homesick Alien said:
Do tell...

I'm thinking that I'm getting the hang of this, but I'm getting the feeling I'm just making stuff up and it's not right.

Here's what I've got...

Ok, first, so that you're clear and I'm clear about what we've got going on...

Strap A is the strap that runs length of the rifle. There is a buckle that is adjustable that controls how far back towards the butt of the rifle the forward buckle of Straps B & C is. Straps B & C basically form one looped strap, B being the one inside, C the one outside.

'Strong side' is the side with your shooting hand, the one you use to pull the trigger, 'weak side' is the other side, just to prevent any confusion of right/left.

A1) Strap B/C is over strong side shoulder running diagonally under weak side arm, the rifle lies flat against body pointed down, pistol grip is center of mass and depending on adjustment of buckle on strap A points from about 15 degrees (buckle on strap A forward) to straight down (buckle on strap A further back towards butt of rifle).

A2) Starts same as A1, but then seperate strap B/C and place weak side arm between strap B and C so that strap B is above weak side shoulder and strap C is under weak side arm. Rifle now sits closer to strong side with pistol grip on strong side of stomach.

B1) Strap B/C goes under strong side arm runs diagonaly up toward weak side shoulder and over weak side shoulder. Rifle butt is just under armpit and the rifle faces somewhat forward.

B2) Start same as B2 but then slip strap C off weak side shoulder so that it is under weak side arm - weak side arm is now between B & C.

B1 carry seems to be the quickest transition from slung to ready but the least comfortable slung. When ready the straps are not snug.

A1 is quite quick to transition and much more comfortable then B1. When ready the traps are snug and there is some tension.

B2 seems the slowest to transition as Strap B & C move through forward buckle, strap B shortens while C lengthens coming up to ready and the reverse going back to slung. It also feels less comfortable then A1 or A2 but more comfortable then B2. When ready the straps are snug and there is some tension.

A2 seems the most comfortable slung, even more so then A1. The transition is quite fast, similar to A1, but the straps are loose when ready.

So, I think that comfort when slung, speed of transition and having the straps snug when ready are all desirable attributes. But none of the above have all three...


............Comfort............Speed..........Snug
_________________________________________
A1............+......................+................+

A2............++....................+................-

B1............--......................++..............-

B2............-........................-................++

As you can see from my handy-dandy chart, I don't know which one is right or which one to choose...

Argh...Help!

Getting really frustrated here...
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question on single point sling's.... which arm do you put thru the loop, dominant hand or non dominant hand....

was dicking around last night and am undecided which I prefer
 
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