Assault Rifles For Hunters = "Terrorist Rifles" - Jim Zumbo Blog

I don't feel sorry for him... this attitude is pervasive and insidious in the firearms community. Not only are many firearms owners critical of other types of firearms... but they can be very critical of other styles of hunting as well.:mad:
Might be a good time to look in the mirror for many people.
I think that the term "Zumboism" will become the next catchphrase in many debates here and across our community.
 
Wow!! Frankly, I haven't actually been aware of who this guy is.... or was. Bigredd put it nicely. Some of us need to look in the mirror. I cringe at some of the things I recall saying. I can only claim igorance. The good thing is that ignorance can be dealt with. Over the years, I have read many articles on this subject, and have come to realize how lack of knowledge can be one of the excuses for some of the commentary we are subjected to. Poor old Zumbo presents us with a prime example. It is evident that because one is an "expert" in one area of the subject at hand, one need not think that he or she can be expected to know everything about all aspects of the field. Zumbo is within his "rights" to say what he thinks, but it seems he should have gone to bed instead. At least he showed his colors and is having to now "pay the piper". :p :p
 
BIGREDD said:
I don't feel sorry for him... this attitude is pervasive and insidious in the firearms community. Not only are many firearms owners critical of other types of firearms... but they can be very critical of other styles of hunting as well.:mad:
Might be a good time to look in the mirror for many people.
I think that the term "Zumboism" will become the next catchphrase in many debates here and across our community.


I think it will as well.

Let's zumbo dion!

Ah ####, dion zumboned himself. :runaway:

lol
 
Okay, here's some more fuel for the fire that I took from Cast Boolits:

(post from an industry gunwriter)

As most of you would guess, there is a lot of activity inside the industry right now, despite it being a Sunday.

Another writer Bill McRea has stepped up supporting Zumbo and agreeing with his feelings on banning assault weapons.

Here is a email forwarded to me


On Sunday, February 18, 2007, at 01:17 PM, Bill McRae wrote:


Shirley and Friends
I agree wholeheartedly with Jim on this and I don't give a damn who does or does not like it. Furthermore, I applaud Jim for having
had the courage to say what he said.
Bill McRae

----- Original Message -----
From: Shirley Steffen
To: Karin Levine ; Lamar Underwood ; Bill McRae ; Bob Pilgrim - Taubert ; Ian McMurchy ; John Fasano ; John Phillips ; John Plaster ; Ted Nugent ; Wiley Clapp ; Walt Rauch ; Wayne Van Zwoll ; Lamar Underwood
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:27 AM
Subject: Fwd: Zumbo on 'terrorist rifles' in the hunting fields



He's not alone either, I had Thomas McIntyre get in my face once on a hunt with Swarovski. He was as rabid as an anti-gun piece of sh*t, and felt they should be banned. Bryce Townsley was there and Bryce and I both gave him hell

So Bill McRea and Thomas McIntyre are both pieces of sh*t you should be aware of.



David M. Fortier
 
Also from Cast Boolits:

Here are some emails to Mr.Zumbo's sponsors. AND may as well add Bill McRea and Thomas McIntyre to the list. I for one am going to fire off a letter to every single one of them and let them know what my oppinion is:

webmaster@outdoorlife.com
webmaster@remington.com
tommy.millner@remington.com
dawn.lorello@swarovski.com
sales@gerberblades.com
benglish@mossyoak.com
pstrickland@mossyoak.com
domain.admin@CABELAS.COM
corporate@cabelas.com
info@stoneypoint.com
hans@himtnjerky.com
kimberly@himtnjerky.com
connie@himtnjerky.com
olletters@time4.com
elizabeth.burnham@time4.com
ashley.rosenfeld@time4.com
amanda.gastelum@time4.com
kristen.baumgarten@time4.com
amanda.mcnally@time4.com
michael.haugen@remington.com
gregory.baradat@remington.com
eddie.stevenson@remington.com

comments@harris-pub.com
bill@wcmcrae.com

Field and Stream email contacts. Send to em all:

All divisions of Field and Stream including ad staff and media relations:

ashley.rosenfeld@time4.com
amanda.gastelum@time4.com
kristen.baumgarten@time4.com
amanda.mcnally@time4.com
elizabeth.burnham@time4.com
fsletters@time4.com

All you have to do to reply is write your letter, then select, copy, and paste all these emails as one into your sent address bar and they will all get sent at once.
 
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Cabela's got back to me. Looks like it was a stock response, but here goes:

Cabelas response...

"Dear Mr. ######X,

Thanks for your comments. While Cabela’s believes everyone has the right to express their own opinions, we strongly disagree with Jim Zumbo’s February 16 posting on his Hunting with Jim Zumbo blog on Outdoor Life’s Web site.

Throughout our 46-year history, Cabela’s has firmly supported all aspects of shooting sports. We strongly support the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States and the right of every U.S. citizen to purchase, own and enjoy any legal firearm of their choosing.

While we fully support Mr. Zumbo’s First Amendment right of free speech, we believe his opinions on this matter are counter to those shared by Cabela’s and many of our customers. Cabela’s Legal Department is currently reviewing contractual obligations and commitments regarding our sponsorship of the Jim Zumbo Outdoors television show.

Have a great day.
Sincerely,
Brent"
 
I hunt with my m14.

Anyone have a problem with it?

Why?

Its accurate, reliable, adjustable/tweekable for the scenario that I want, semiauto that fires the .308 down range as good as any other rifle does.

Frankly, I'd love to hunt with an AR-10. Good round, reliable system.

Saying military guns dont belong in hunting is like saying Swiss or Italian guns dont belong in shooting sports.

Yes, I know -- doesnt make sense.
 
I agree wholeheartedly with Jim on this and I don't give a damn who does or does not like it. Furthermore, I applaud Jim for having
had the courage to say what he said.
Bill

I wonder if Bill said this before or after Jimbo did a 180 and started trying to save his azz??
 
THE GUN NUT

Rantings And Ravings From Field & Streams David E. Petzal

February 22, 2007

ZUMBOMANIA: David E. Petzal’s take on the Jim Zumbo fiasco

In case you just emerged from a coma and have not heard, the shooting world is agog over a blog posted by Jim Zumbo, former contributing editor at Outdoor Life, over the weekend of February 17. In it, Jim stated that any semiauto rifle with an AR or AK prefix was a terrorist rifle, had no place in hunting, and should be outlawed for that purpose. Then, courtesy of the Internet and all its blogs and chatrooms, the roof fell in.

The speed with which Zumbomania spread, the number of comments it drew, and the rabid nature of same were a revelation. Overnight, this thing became as big as Janet Jackson’s clothing failure or—dare I say it?—Britney Spears’ shaved head. Jim Zumbo is now as employable as the Unabomber, and Sarah Brady will no doubt adopt his comments to her own gun-control purposes.

For the last several days I’ve been visiting all manner of blogs and chatrooms, which has reminded me of when I used to deliver used clothing to the local mental hospital. I’ve tried to make some sense of it all, but because the waters are still full of blood and body parts continue to rain from the sky, I haven’t come up with any Great Truths. Lacking that, here are some Lesser Truths.

What Jim said was ill-considered. He’s entitled to his beliefs, but when a writer of his stature comes out against black guns, it sure as hell does not help our cause.

Even so, Jim made an immediate apology. He did not equivocate, or qualify, or make excuses. He acted like a gentleman and said he was wrong, and he was sorry. Apparently this is not enough anymore. We now live in the era of one strike and you're out.

For 40 years, Jim has been a spokesman and ambassador of good will for hunting. Through his tireless efforts as a teacher and lecturer on hunting and hunting skills, he has done more for the sport than any 250 of the yahoos who called for his blood.

Jim has paid dearly for what he said. He has lost his blog and his association with Remington. Cabela’s has suspended its sponsorship of his TV show; and Outdoor Life has accepted his offer to sever ties. To all the chatroom heroes who made him unemployable, I have a word of warning: You’ve been swinging a two-edged sword. A United States in which someone can be ruined for voicing an unpopular opinion is a dangerous place. Today it was Jim’s turn. Tomorrow it may be yours.

If Sarah Brady is smart—and she is very smart—she will comb through the same blogs and chatrooms I’ve been reading, excerpt some of the most vicious and foul-mouthed entries, print them up, and distribute them to Congress. Then it will be interesting to see how the men and women who wrote that stuff enjoy seeing their efforts being put to use by every anti-gunner in America.

Stay tuned.

http://fieldandstream.blogs.com/gunnut/2007/02/zumbomania_davi.html
 
February 23, 2007

ZUMBOMANIA, PART II: David E. Petzal responds to your comments

As has been pointed out by those of you with long memories, I wrote a piece 13 years ago about the then-looming assault rifle ban. The story was unpopular with a lot of people, but nowhere in it did I endorse the ban, as some are claiming. I note that none of you have seen fit to haul up the many, many times I’ve said critical things about Senators Clinton, Schumer, Feinstein, and of course our beloved former President Bubba. But then it seems that most of you who are visiting here don't read this blog, or Field & Stream, or what I've written to defend the Second Amendment over the years.

Here’s some other relevant information: When I wrote it, black guns were not nearly as important a part of shooting as they are now. We can’t afford to sacrifice them, just as we can’t afford to sacrifice .50-caliber rifles (which I wrote about positively a couple of issues ago in a story called “Way Out There”).

In case you’re wondering, I’ve been using black rifles since 1965, when I hunted woodchucks with one of the very first AR-15s sold commercially by Colt. I’ve worked over many a prairie dog town with one AR variant or another, and if Les Baer were to send me one of his rifles (a heavy barrel flattop in .223, please), I would not send it back. I currently own an M1A. I don’t know if that qualifies or not.

Most important, you shouldn’t construe any of this as an apology. It isn’t. But it is the last thing I’m going to say in this space about the Zumbo matter.


http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/http://fieldandstream.blogs.com/gunnut/2007/02/zumbomania_part.html
 
Cry me a river Petzel! Zumbo made a half-hearted "apology" once it was explained to him that he'd just effectively killed his career! He wouldn't have thought twice about selling out gun owners of the "black rifle" persuasion if there were no consequences for him personally.

The criticism of Zumbo appearantly hit a little too close to home for you according to some of the quotes I've read that are attributed to YOU back in 1993 when Clinton was first introducing his AWB bill. Friends like you and Zumbo we don't need!

It looks like F&S told ol' Dave to shut the hell up!
 
It's kinda like standing up in court and saying "I killed him", then try to apologise for it later. Typing and talking are different. You can erase typing. You can sit on an article after typing it and "cool off" or think before you send it. Lots of options there, he took none of them...........one strike and you're out.
 
Suddenly these yahoos who have carved out a nice living for themselves on the backs of other shooters and hunters realize that their jobs have responsibilities beyound free gack and product placement.
 
""Gun owners -- all gun owners -- pay a heavy price for having to defend the availability of these weapons. "The American public -- and the gun-owning public; especially the gun-owning public -- would be better off without the hardcore military arms, which puts the average sportsman in a real dilemma".An Uzi or an AKM or an AK-47 should be no more generally available than a Claymore mine or a block of C4 explosive."

David E. Petzal 1994"

:mad:nn:mad:
 
Petzal Dude said:
A United States in which someone can be ruined for voicing an unpopular opinion is a dangerous place. Today it was Jim’s turn. Tomorrow it may be yours.
Quite simply, there are certain factions of firearms owners who, now, don't want or need Jim Zumbo as a 'friend'. We are facing enough enemies that we don't need them or will tolerate them from within.
 
The problem is most of these "older" writers don't understand the appeal of the "newer" style rifles
Also apparently they don't get how the internet has organized the masses the way they never were
It seems that ,as always, time seems to have passed the older generation by
 
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