Assembly problem with #4 Enfield

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I bought a #4 Sporter awhile ago and decided to restore it. I got a new forend and some other parts that I needed. I finally started to put it back together tonight. :eek: Something is Wrong and I am at a loss as what to do. The front swivel band is way off.
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You have a brand new forend; so it can be expected to have too much wood ;) in certain areas.

Take a narrow strip of sand paper, the width of the band channel you want to deepen. Go gradually, trying to fit the band every now and then. Eventually, you'll get it just right. You want the band to be tight, while allowing the sling to be able to move.

Lou
 
There's something not right...post a picture from the top and side. Also of the band separate from the stock. Are there any markings on the forend? Ron
 
I had the same issue with some new pakistan wood. they intentionally made them too large so they could be fitted to each rifle. Its better to have too much that can be removed then too little.
 
Damm, That's what I was expecting to hear. I was hoping I had it on backwards or something ;) I don't know which band it is. The rifle was probably made up from bit's and pieces. Another thing I realized last night is I don't have a front band. Where could I get one from ? Numrich Arms doesn't have any Enfield stuff any more. :confused: Jack PS. I'll get a few more pictures
 
Hard to get good close ups. You can see where it has been welded and there is a Broad Arrow with 7A following. I hear the Pakistanis are good at making copies. Not that I care in this case as long as I can make it work. Jack
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Well you got a British mid band...I see a few rub marks on it and it looks like its been on a rifle before. If I was doing a Long Branch I would try to get Canadian stamped parts. Where did you purchase the forend? Can you post a picture of the top guards and the top of the stock? Ron
 
I am not sure if this helps or not. I can try to get some close ups if this is no good. This is after the stock came out of it's oil bath.
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This is a picture of the fore end after I stained it with a red earth ink to try and color match it.
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I see you center bedded the lower stock as well as the barrel knox. Do the handguards rest on the lower wood with the barrelled action in the stock? 303 was never center bedded however 7.62mm was...it met with limited success. There must be some uplift pressure on the barrel at the tip of the stock I don't see anything wrong with the top guards. Are they bedded as well? Ron
 
Rebedding the rifle according the the armorer's instructions would be a good start, indeed.

Thanks to Edward Horton for this:
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Although... Now that I think about it reading Ron's post... Isn't there an instruction somewhere about centre bedding for long distance accuracy? even for the .303... maybe my brain needs a rest.
 
I did a fair amount of research on the bedding on different site's and followed the instructions. Here's one, but there are more. they more or less said the same thing. I certainly don't plan on starting over ;) I can't see any reason why there would be any difference between a 303 Enfield and a 308 Win. as far as the bedding goes. On that site their shooting at ranges to to 1000 yds. My rifle range is only 200 yds. I just figured if I am going to bed it, I might as well do the best I can. http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=867 Lou, I followed those instruction and the rest as well. Good read.
 
Well there's lots of differences in 303 and 7.62. Simply put..it's harmonics..bedding to reduce length in an attempt to stabilize the bullet. The link you posted is for 7.62 and the bediing was done with wood. Lou has posted the correct bedding for 303...again through contact with wood. Other media like fibreglass and rubber were used in the 7.62 program. I'm not going to debate the merrits of your bedding selection.....what you need to assess is the fit of the barrelled action in the foredtock with the handguards in place. If they set down on the stock the midband should snug up without an issue. If the guards are contacting the barrel they will be held up and the band can not be seated. There is also a possibility that they is excess woodin the band recess however it looks like it is cut to depth. Ron
 
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