AT15 UPPERS to be unveiled at Calgary Gun Show

just a thing of art, keep up the good work rick, and hopefully when i can save up enough, ill be coming on in. and getting you to make me one. hopefully soon...
 
Nice piece of kit there! Any future plans for 7.62x51 chambering? AR-15's, Leopard tanks, the maple leaf emblem sure looks great.

We have a few more things in the works but until we actually have them into full production are keeping it on the down low.
There should be a few more items with the Maple Leaf on them later this year, stay tuned:D
 
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Nice! Is that a .223 necked out to 300? Would a customer be able to order a barrel? Maybe something 20" for long distance matches? Or would an entire upper/bolt carrier be required to ensure accurate head spacing etc?
 
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Nice! Is that a .223 necked out to 300? Would a customer be able to order a barrel? Maybe something 20" for long distance matches? Or would an entire upper/bolt carrier be required to ensure accurate head spacing etc?

We are making barrels in 221x300 or 300 Whisper or 300 Blackout, all being much the same thing.
I am not sure that it would be an ideal long range caliber however, possibly a 6mmx223 wildcat would be something to consider?
We use "thee" bolt in order to get correct headspacing, so all that would be required assuming you have an upper is a new barrel and bolt head.
It is nicer to just swap uppers for caliber changes but needless to say increases the costs.
 
We would love to sell them for a lot less, unfortunately the cost of materials, labor and overhead as well as what our CNC machines are capable of producing dictates that if we want to stay in business we actually should charge more. The fact is we are making a whopping 20% profit on these which is well below what any accountant will tell you is enough to stay open for business. We were hoping to be able to sell them for $400.00 or less, but there is little point in making something just to break even.

The US market has so many HUGE machine shops that will turn out parts on a contract basis there is no way to compete with the big players on price.
I spoke with a few of these shops about turning out uppers and frankly if we outsourced them to 1 of these "production shops" we could sell them for about 1/2 of what we do now. but then they would NOT be made here, just another imported item, which in my mind rather defeats the whole purpose. We could also outsource to China if the numbers were big enough for them to bother and then they would be real inexpensive but in either case they would NOT be made here, just another mass produced imported item, which in my mind rather defeats the whole purpose.

If we could sell many thousands of uppers per year it would be worth selling our $100K per machine CNC machines and buying $750K per machine CNC machines, I don't believe Canada has a big enough market to warrant that sort of investment. So we make them 1 at a time which is NOT the inexpensive way to make anything, but the quality is much higher.
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I don't know how things are in Alberta but here in southern Ontario there are hundreds of small-, medium-, and even full-sized machine shops built to service the automotive industry. For instance, I used to work in one that was the world leader in dual fuel systems. (The vehicle would run on natural gas or propane until the fuel ran out, then switch automatically to gasoline.) With the downturn in automotive production, most are desperate for work and willing to take on any reasonable outside orders.

I realize this is kind of late but I just came across this thread. Hope this can be of value to you. ;)
 
I don't know how things are in Alberta but here in southern Ontario there are hundreds of small-, medium-, and even full-sized machine shops built to service the automotive industry. For instance, I used to work in one that was the world leader in dual fuel systems. (The vehicle would run on natural gas or propane until the fuel ran out, then switch automatically to gasoline.) With the downturn in automotive production, most are desperate for work and willing to take on any reasonable outside orders.

I realize this is kind of late but I just came across this thread. Hope this can be of value to you. ;)

We get calls and emails very frequently from various machine shops all over Canada looking for subcontract machinework.
Yes we could subcontract the work, just as we could to off shore companies and then make our product cheap and just like almost every other AR made. The problem still, is that then we are dependant on someone elses QC and standards. I KNOW what materials we are using and I am very selective on material suppliers, outsourcing does not necessarily guarantee this same material is being used. The other problem here is that unless THAT shop is licensed for firearms manufacturing it limits what they can do.

Having recently been down the road of having inhouse subcontractors convert for their own use and or sell programs / intellectual property belonging to ATRS to another company, makes me leery about opening any
possibility of unknowingly getting into bed so to speak with less than honorable individuals again.

My goal in starting ATRS 15 years ago was to make the absolute best quality product,and as unique as possible, not the necessarily the cheapest. That market has lots competition already offering low end, or run of the mill and cheap.
It has been a very long hard climb to get to the point ATRS is at now and we continue to improve our products even more as time goes on. Since 2008 when the very 1st AT15 was finished there have been 3 more generations, each with improvements and refinements in both function and tolerances.

I've known all along that not everyone can justify or afford to drive a Bentley. I know I can't!:eek:
I guess my whole theory here is, IF I want a Bentley and can afford 1, I want it made by Bentley not just a Kia with a Bentley hood crest.

I appreciate the input and as always am looking for feedback on how we can improve on what we do.
 
Is there a Chance to make the upper in a left handed version Like my Stag Arms? Would it be feasible to do that?

It would mean a completely new program and set of fixtures. Which equates to a significant investment of $$
To date we have excatly 3 requests for a LH upper, which unfortunately does not make it economically feasible for to make.
To the best of my knowledge only Stag makes a LH upper, if there was a lot more demand other makers would already be onto that bandwagon.

With only 15% of the world being lefties there are many areas that are lacking in support, unfortunately the gun world is 1 of them.
 
It would mean a completely new program and set of fixtures. Which equates to a significant investment of $$
To date we have excatly 3 requests for a LH upper, which unfortunately does not make it economically feasible for to make.
To the best of my knowledge only Stag makes a LH upper, if there was a lot more demand other makers would already be onto that bandwagon.

With only 15% of the world being lefties there are many areas that are lacking in support, unfortunately the gun world is 1 of them.

Approximately 1/3 of people are left-eye dominant, though.
 
It would mean a completely new program and set of fixtures. Which equates to a significant investment of $$
To date we have excatly 3 requests for a LH upper, which unfortunately does not make it economically feasible for to make.
To the best of my knowledge only Stag makes a LH upper, if there was a lot more demand other makers would already be onto that bandwagon.

With only 15% of the world being lefties there are many areas that are lacking in support, unfortunately the gun world is 1 of them.

Thanks for the quick response to my query. I may just buy an other upper receiver and Bolt carrier assembly and send it out to you to build up a full length rifle for longer range target shooting.
 
Approximately 1/3 of people are left-eye dominant, though.


ARs are essentially ambidextrous and there are a slew of aftermarket add ons that make it completely ambidextrous. There is really no good reason to make a new gun. What specific issues do you have with the AR platform? I bet Rick can resolve them without designing a new rifle.
 
ARs are essentially ambidextrous and there are a slew of aftermarket add ons that make it completely ambidextrous. There is really no good reason to make a new gun. What specific issues do you have with the AR platform? I bet Rick can resolve them without designing a new rifle.

Me, personally? Not much.

I'm just pointing out that not all people who shoot rifles lefty are left-handed.
 
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