ATF and 16" barrels?

[drache]

I just noticed in the Bushmaster manual (2005) for XM15 and C15's it states:

Note: ATF regulations require a minimum barrel length of 16" on commercially available rifles and carbines. This 16" length can be a combination of barrel and permanantly fixed (pinned and welded over) muzzle break / flash suppressor as long as the total equals 16"

Yet Im sure Ive seen 11.5" barrels on AR-15's in the States.

*and yes permanently is spelled wrong in the manual*

 

[Suputin]

Anything under that 16" length is classed as a SBR (short barreled rifle) and requires an extra tax stamp. They can have any length they want, they just have to pay extra and jump through some burocratic hoops.

 

[Wendell]

In most states.

 

[Paletiger13]

Yeah my AR-15 is a 11 1/2" upper. $200 tax stamp ouch

 

[greentips]

The brutal part is that the process involves finger printing and LE approval - this means your local LE has some discretion whether you can go ahead.

 

[P90Puma]

The brutal part is that the process involves finger printing and LE approval - this means your local LE has some discretion whether you can go ahead.

Not if you form a trust.

 

[Matt_mg]

Yeah my AR-15 is a 11 1/2" upper. $200 tax stamp ouch

We just pay that in sales tax up here...

 

[RayMan]

We just pay that in sales tax up here...

Hahah pretty much, eh.

 

[gallen270]

as a side note, if your a canadian and plan on bringing your gun south at some point, i dont believe a NIA can have an NFA regulated firearm on their form 6.

 

[cybershooters]

The brutal part is that the process involves finger printing and LE approval - this means your local LE has some discretion whether you can go ahead.

I was turned down when I lived in FL, the local PD and the Sheriff just wouldn't sign the Form 4, even for an SBR. Federal judge for the district can also sign it, good luck with that.

I think only TN requires the CLEO to sign the form provided the person is of good character.

There are ways around it, e.g. becoming a dealer, or setting up a corporation or trust but it's a lot of paperwork just to own an SBR. And a lot of States ban them anyway.

Regardless, you cannot import an SBR into the US, only letterhead purchases from the USG or a LE agency can get in.

 

[Paletiger13]

Here in Tennessee the Chief LEO has to sign it unless there is a problem with your background.

 

[tbooker]

But if they take the stock off of it and call it a pistol then they are ok or at least that is what I have heard. Please correct me or clearify if this is wrong.

 

[tiriaq]

But if they take the stock off of it and call it a pistol then they are ok or at least that is what I have heard. Please correct me or clearify if this is wrong.

If it is made as a pistol, it is a pistol - but a buttstock cannot be added.

 

[P0WERWAGON]

If it is made as a pistol, it is a pistol - but a buttstock cannot be added.

if they add a stock to a pistol, the ATFE sees it as a SBR.

i'd gladly get printed and pay a $200 stamp to take my AR camping.

 

[KevinB]

Some counties in Fl are much more forgiving, however a trust is an easier way, and you can get your wife and kids on.

 

[Ar180shooter]

as a side note, if your a canadian and plan on bringing your gun south at some point, i dont believe a NIA can have an NFA regulated firearm on their form 6.

I believe you are correct.