ATF disallowed my Tavor

Look on the plus side about Canada if you own a firearm is legal all the way across the country and not pot marked and could go to jail from moving through a state just because it is a big scary gun.
 
Secondgunman said:
Look on the plus side about Canada if you own a firearm is legal all the way across the country and not pot marked and could go to jail from moving through a state just because it is a big scary gun.
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And all we had to do was give up every other piece of personal liberty we could have. Great deal.
 
ATF is federal law across the whole US. This issue isn't State specific. Not to be pessimistic but don't try to compare our laws with those in the US because our laws are not in our favour. And they can own a hell of a lot more than us without much fuss and with a permit they can own a lot more.

I'll be checking with the ATF office later to clarify this issue.
 
Just hung up from the ATF office and the response was that; things change constantly and at this point in time the T21 Tavor is considered a machine gun.
 
Lawrence D said:
Just hung up from the ATF office and the response was that; things change constantly and at this point in time the T21 Tavor is considered a machine gun.
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this was already posted, but you need to declare which of the 3 models it is.

TV-PressPass said:
Just about to dig through this thread. I'm currently stateside with my Tavor and my US paperwork.

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Okay OP, can you clarify what you mean by disallowed?

Did you already have a Form 6NIA with your Tavor on it?

Did the ATF contact you to revoke or modify your Form 6NIA?

Simple Sum Up:

As far as I understand it the ATF lists 3 models of Tavors out there.

1. The IWI US "SAR-21"

2. The Israeli Military "TAR-21" which is generally on the ATF's "machinegun list"

3. The Civilian "TAVOR-21" model you find in Canada. Should be stamped right on the side of your gun.

When I applied for my Form 6 earlier this year, I had to call into the ATF, then email back and forth a bit with them. They wanted to make sure that my rifle was a semi-auto only setup, and not an NFA controlled item. I told them a bit about my rifle, how long I'd had it, what I'd done to it, then I emailed them external photos and they issued me the temporary import permit.

That + a match invitation has served me well when crossing the border. I literally made the crossing Monday afternoon. Standard procedure: declare everything, open everything up for the border officer, let him compare the serial numbers on paperwork to serials on steel, have a short "That's a damn cool gun" conversation, and I was on my way.

Curious to hear more about who's telling you your rifle has been "disallowed." Also keep in mind that my experience only applies to temporary import. If you're moving to the United States that would be a whole different barrel-kettle of fish-monkeys.
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same thing with the CZ858. have it on my form6, added more guns and goodies, rest is ok'd, 858 is no go. but i already have a valid form6 with it on it, so it doesnt matter.

next year, send off the application, first time no go for the 858, put it on another with different guns, ok'd.

just keep applying with different guns. i even put norinco's on there just to keep them on their toes, never know, one day they might accidentally approve one.

BYW 922r doesnt matter for our guns, it is only a temp import. 922r is for modifying a sporting rifle into a fun gun once in the US.
 
I tried with mine, spoke with an ASAC in the imports department. They consider the TAR under the NFA. Ie tax stamp. The condsider it a machine gun. Don't know why, but they do.
 
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