ATRS actions

2bad4u2 said:
I can't think of a good enough reason to spend tons of extra money on a detachable magazine for a bolt action rifle of all things. If I need that kind of capability, semi-autos will fill that role quite nicely.

In a rifle devoted strictly to tactical rifle matches where there's plenty of run & gun field type shooting, I can see it being a definite advantage. However, how many of those types of matches do we have here in Canada? Unfortunately, precious few.

In the end, it's whatever floats yer boat.
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If you're not a fan of mags, good for you but Alberta Tactical Rifle isn't called that because we specialize in single shot rifles. If it's bottom metal or a 30 rnd mag, it's still up to the individual and I'm not going to slag on someone because they like to take their time and make every shot count. For me, it would be hard competing in 'Tactical' shoot with a floor plate system when you have to shoot 10rnds/level and it's a timed event.
 
Glock-a-maniac said:
If you're not a fan of mags, good for you but Alberta Tactical Rifle isn't called that because we specialize in single shot rifles. If it's bottom metal or a 30 rnd mag, it's still up to the individual and I'm not going to slag on someone because they like to take their time and make every shot count. For me, it would be hard competing in 'Tactical' shoot with a floor plate system when you have to shoot 10rnds/level and it's a timed event.
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Troy, I hope you didn't think my comment was to slag on ATRS? I did not and definitely do not wish to do so. I was simply stating my preference for an internal mag or single shot. I said the d-mag had its limited applications.
 
2bad4u2 said:
I can't think of a good enough reason to spend tons of extra money on a detachable magazine for a bolt action rifle of all things. If I need that kind of capability, semi-autos will fill that role quite nicely.

In a rifle devoted strictly to tactical rifle matches where there's plenty of run & gun field type shooting, I can see it being a definite advantage. However, how many of those types of matches do we have here in Canada? Unfortunately, precious few.

In the end, it's whatever floats yer boat.
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Maybe you can't, but a lot of people obviously can, both V-Bull and Badger seem to be selling quite a few of them and everyone seems to be happy.

On the sniper match thing, there a few here that are full every match and I am certain there are shooters that will go to the US to compete, as a matter of fact I know several that do it quite a few times a year.

So you are right, in the end it is in fact what ever floats your boat, and these units seem to float a lot of boats here and I am sure even more outside of here.

By the way, good on you Rick, those are going to be serious kickass actions.
 
I enjoy ultra long distance varmint shooting and the benefits of a high-cap mag are huge. There are no semi's I would waste money on that are capable of hitting gophers at 1000 yards.

Good on ATRS for picking up the ball and running with it. I'm sure the liability insurance needed for marketing rifle actions has to be huge and considering the size of their market, the effort has to be worth their while. $2500 for a high quality BR action you don't have to wait 6 months for would be worth it to me...
 
Max Owner said:
In PGW thread Rick mentioned about new equipment coming in to build these actions.

One has to recoup costs. When the equipment is paid for, there is achance that these prices could come down.

Sometimes prices aren't a fact of getting rich, but paying for overhead.
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You hit the nail on the head. I can attest to the equipment ATRS has had to bring on line to make this happen. Its a bit of a jump from the machining tools required to build firearms with parts that are already made.

However, that being said, its nice to see more guys giving it a go up in Canada. As I'm sure many can attest, its really not a pile of fun importing things out of the US and its getting harder still.

Are BR tolerance, high end actions cheap? Nope but they sure are nice:D
 
High quality actions with tight tolerances that are designed for a specific use are not everyones bag. The market in fact is tiny, compared to what the market is for regular hunting rifles and shotguns etc. Not everyone has need of a very specialized piece of equipment. I have a friend who makes reed cleaners for clainets I beleive is the instrument, now THAT is specialized, yet he sells enough to keep his business profitable, and at $125.00 per for a bit of brass that is the size of a penny, still sells many.

I am not happy with what is currently offered on the market, and truly despise dealing with the border, both sides. So rather than whine about it decided to be unique and do something about it, make my own, the way I think they should be and to the tolerances I want.
Honestly mag fed rifles are a pain in the ass to make funtion flawlessly 100% of the time, single shot bolt guns are far easier, and possibly more accurate, there will be some singles at some point as all it is , is altering code.
The price is whatever it is, if it is too rich for some, they won't buy it, oh well.
We can not all afford to drive Bentleys either, but they still sell and seem to have a market as well.
If I had any brains at all I would make oilfield parts rather than gun stuff, the money is FAR better and the hassles FAR fewer, but what fun is making oil field parts?
 
Max Owner said:
In PGW thread Rick mentioned about new equipment coming in to build these actions.
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Yeah, his words to me were "what are you doing in three weeks?"

Sitting here on my backside Rick! But I'd rather be doing this than dragging that big jesus lathe across your shop!:slap:
 
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For those who are under the impression that it's all or nothing when buying one of these actions, I just want to clarify something. Since these actions will take a Rem700 trigger, and bottom metal, for those who want to upgrade at a later date, that will be an option as well.

I'm not sure if it was mentioned but I should mention that until we know exactly what it's going to cost to EDM the raceways and temper the actions, the final price is still kind of up in the air so though it does sound expensive, we'll have a more realistic number once everything comes together. We'll definitely keep you posted.

As mentioned, once we get the programming down and manufacturing streamlined, with other companies buying our actions to have on their shelves, costs could likely come down slightly because of us running larger batches of action and being able to do things in bulk.

I should say, it wouldn't have been possible for us to purchase such a machine if we wouldn't have had the client base that we do so a BIG Thanks is in order to all of you that have seen us grow over the years.
 
FWIW Rick, we make 'oilfield' parts and do oiltool repairs and it's not as good as it once was. Lots of #####in'. We only do custom machine work in the winter and I'm glad spring is here. Good luck, Mark
 
What kind of interest rates does ATRS have? :D

Im thinking one of those with a 338LM tube screwed on it would take me a few years to pay off!
 
Parker-Hale Mike said:
That action in the pictures, isn't that a Nesika G action? Are you guys making a clone of it?
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No it is NOT!
The ATRS actions as described will be very similar to the Nesika, and BATs and any other round precision action. They all are slightly different.
I am NOT re inventing the wheel here, just making a high quality action, that I DON"T have to import as I am sick to death of CBSA, BSA Homeland Insecurity, DFAIT FAIT-C and all the rest of the government B.S.
 
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alberta tactical rifle said:
No it is NOT!
The ATRS actions as described will be very similar to the Nesika, and BATs and any other round precision action. They all are slightly different.
I am NOT re inventing the wheel here, just making a high quality action, that I DON"T have to import as I am sick to death of CBSA, BSA Homeland Insecurity, DFAIT FAIT-C and all the rest of the government B.S.
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I really should read the posts more thoroughly before replying.
The photos IS actually 1 of a prototype G action from early (Harrison) days at Nesika.
The specs are similar, but I have made several changes as well, mostly to the bolt and port lengths.
Hopefully very soon we will have actual photos of our actions, sorry for the confusion.
 
Alright, so after 5 pages or reading, what we have in brief is:

-ARTS will be making actions of quality
-tolerance will be tight and narrow
-these actions will blend the best features and aspects of other simialar actions of quality
-Ricks own personal tastes be added to these metal & steel creations
-the requirements of both Left and Right handed shooters will be taken into account
-detachable magazines to accomodate long seating will be used
-Much research and development has been done to this point

Please feel free to correct me or make additions as rquired, but please do so in a constructive manor.

Am I understanding correctly in that the pictures shown above are actualy of some other makers Prototype??

With this in mind I would like to know:

- At this point does ATRS have a WORKING action of their own make/manufacture with the above features mentoned (prototype or other wise)

- The road to full production and success is long and fraught with pitfalls. In your own conservative estimations where are you in this process.

- Based on the above, do you have a conservative estimate as to release to the consuming public.

Please understand, I am not trying to be difficult or stir the pot. I simply want reasonable, reliable information from the source, so I can make some decisions on my part.

regards and all the best

AbH
 
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