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I totally agree with that last statement.

I think if any moderators are reading this thread it's obvious Marksmen isn't trying to add to this thread but in fact do exactly opposite.

As for how many components of our action will actually be made in Canada? We all know there aren't any trigger manufacturers in Canada so I guess they'll be coming from down south. As for bolt manufacturers?? No luck there either but the nice part about all of the bolt-on parts is that they aren't serialized which makes it 10 times easier to import then the serialized part which in time will be made in Canada.
For those of you that have dealt with us and those of you that haven't yet, our warranty and support that goes with our guns is the biggest advantage vs someone just selling an action brought up from the states. Unless the seller is a stocking Canadian distributor, the downtime on that gun could be longer then expected mainly because of the serialized part.
 
Marksmen said:
I am not a CNC machine expert but how does knowing which machine ATR uses makes any difference.
I always thought gunsmith is more an art rather than pure science.
To an untrained eye, having a CNC machine is like owning a Nissan Skyline in the garage. The machine can do many things in different configuration (i.e. the start and the end points are the same but the paths to reach there can be very different).
To me, the man behind the machine is more important than the machine itself. Owning a Ferrari does not mean I will drive like Michael Schumacher. However, if I were Michael Schumacher I can drive a VW and still beat many Porsche drivers in certain tracks.
Now lets get back on track!

This is my point, I really don't care anymore about seeing or hearing about ATR's machines. I won't be using them anyway. I thought I might in the future. If they don't let my know what they have in machine tools as far as I'm concerned there isn't any. So I'm not convinced that any actions will be made in Canada.
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Are you for real.

After pages and pages of people who know Rick, his work ethic and his honesty and have been to shop, you have the odacity to basically say you think he is not being honest?

Why don't you go away now.....!:wave:
 
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Marksman has valid points. Most of the banter on this forum is merely 'here-here' like the parliament "debates" Whether curious or otherwise interested good points were made. Just because he may not agree 100% with the raging masses doesn't mean he has nothing to add. The 'here-here' morons have nothing to add.
pgw makes a real nice action. At the present time they have 'swollenheaditis' from Fed. contracts. When the libs. get back in power the military budget will be cut and their ailment will go away. FWIW we have cnc equipment in our shop and the programmer is the MAN. Everything else is pushing buttons.
Good on you Rick for attempting a local firearm manufacturing venture. Use others questions and constructive criticism to your advantage. Mark
 
By reading so & so on Marksmen rant which is his right, I feel and most would agree that at this point it is not as merely as asking for his pers data but a demand at this point.

Please go be curious Geroge somewheres else...

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redman said:
I could be wrong, but doesn't Prairie Gun Works make these components in Canada? :confused:
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Whether or not PGW is building their own actions isn't really for any of us to argue. Bolt making is a whole other art or process in itself, like barrel making so I doubt they make their own bolts, nor their bottom metal but who cares. I'd imagine they're cutting their own actions and maybe making their own rails but again their guns have a name and reputation of their own and we have to respect that. They get everything they don't make in-house made to their spec and no one questions it as long as it shoots and they have replacement parts available.

I doubt very much whether Ed Begg makes his own mag systems. He's a smart businessmen, he contracts it out because I can't really see him standing infront of a CNC machine all day crank'n out the parts he does and then put everything together. If the guys got the bucks, he lets someone else do the work and he still makes a profit.
 
Yeah, I simply understood that you guys had to get some parts down south since they weren't available here, so I wondered why no one mentioned PGW.

If you guys want to source some of your own parts from the US to make something unique with your own reputation, I guess that's cool - I guess it's time to call Questar (j/k).

Good luck

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Whether or not PGW is building their own actions isn't really for any of us to argue. Bolt making is a whole other art or process in itself, like barrel making so I doubt they make their own bolts, nor their bottom metal but who cares. I'd imagine they're cutting their own actions and maybe making their own rails but again their guns have a name and reputation of their own and we have to respect that. They get everything they don't make in-house made to their spec and no one questions it as long as it shoots and they have replacement parts available.

I doubt very much whether Ed Begg makes his own mag systems. He's a smart businessmen, he contracts it out because I can't really see him standing infront of a CNC machine all day crank'n out the parts he does and then put everything together. If the guys got the bucks, he lets someone else do the work and he still makes a profit.
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Well, then ...
I wager ...
that with weapons of your own choice,
right here and now,
my people can overcome an equal number of thralls
set against us.
100 quatloos on the new comers.
400 quatloos against the new comers.
200 quatloos against!
500 for the new comers.
Contest by multiple elimination.

The Gamesters of Triskelion
 
So I was in to Alberta Tactical Rifle yesterday.

Rick and Troy and myself were talking about the "stuff" floating around and how some of the members were talking BS.

This thread got mentioned.

Rick then showed me his CNC set up in his shop. I did make a point of looking at the name and model # in the front lower right corner and ofcourse, forgot what it was..... :slap:

But the CNC center does exist.

If anyone one wishes to call my "bluff", stop by the shop and ask Rick or Troy nicely to see the set up.
 
Max Owner said:
So I was in to Alberta Tactical Rifle yesterday.

Rick and Troy and myself were talking about the "stuff" floating around and how some of the members were talking BS.

This thread got mentioned.

Rick then showed me his CNC set up in his shop. I did make a point of looking at the name and model # in the front lower right corner and ofcourse, forgot what it was..... :slap:

But the CNC center does exist.

If anyone one wishes to call my "bluff", stop by the shop and ask Rick or Troy nicely to see the set up.
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Man if been wanting to go vist Rick and his shop for quit some time now but I can never find the time, Where abouts is his shop anyway? I am familar with Calgary.....
 
Rick and I have PM'ed and I have offer my apology to Rick as i was mistaken with the setup and circumstances atr's shop and he was a real gentleman and set me straight on everything.
 
I have a single shot 700ish action made by Rob McLennan. I like the idea of using some standard parts, like extractor, trigger and firing pin. When you travel it is nice to be able to get a spare part in an emergency.

Have you considered putting a flat bottom on the single shot action? This makes for a real solid bedding.
 
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