ATRS legal action update Nov 4 2021

I'm praying to all the gods whatever one is to listen that the judge rules that the frt is unjust and in cause the OAC of May 1st is unjust and strikes it down
 
Great job Rick and Ed, I am saddened that more gun owners and organizations can not pull together. I will be sending you a personal cheque for $1,000.00 to assist your fight and a gesture of my support. I hope the majority of people reading this will see this for what it is, a vote of my support for your efferts and will follow with a similar show of support. It matters nothing to me who wins, only that Canadian gun owners succeed in the long run.

Cheers John
PS I don,t give a dam about the spelling!
 
I suspect the individualist tendencies of gun owners work against us sometimes.

Either way, I'm supported as many legal cases as I can including ATRS.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
As some of you may know we have been anxiously awaiting a decision from Judge Gagne since June 29th 2021 when we had the opportunity to argue our motions in court.

We suffered some minor losses in our action against the government on October 21st 2021 when Judge Gagne handed down her decision regarding some parts of our claim. So far ALL of the assorted cases surrounding the May 1 debacle have suffered some motions being struck.

However….
The Federal Court supports the ATRS cause of action against the federal government and four RCMP employees (para 33 and 34 of her decisions). Against the stiff opposition put forward by government lawyers ATRS prevailed in maintaining the main and highly significant action for Misfeasance in a Public Office. This ruling opens the door to a finding of the FRT opinion database is unlawful and causes damages to businesses and individuals. At issue is the unlawfulness of the FRT itself and the culpability of the individual RCMP employees who are alleged to have acted beyond their duties and powers to cause direct harm to ATRS and Richard Timmins, along with thousands of other individuals that have been effected by the unlawful changes to the FRT classifications.

The other causes of action were passed over by the court and removed, allowing a tight focus on the RCMP employees creating the FRT database.
ATRS and Mr Timmins will now focus on those specific allegations and provide the court with strong evidence that the FRT opinions regarding the Modern Series rifles are wrong at law and in fact.

This is the only court case aimed directly at the lawfulness ( or lack thereof ) of the infamous FRT. Since the OIC challenges were denied a review of the FRT opinions this is "The Case" to continue the challenge. By preserving the MPO cause of action the court has shown it is focused on the FRT and the action of the RCMP. There will be no other claims to distract from this highly important issue.

This promises to be thee landmark case.

You can be part of this case by donating to ATRS and Rick Timmins. As in any case this is a struggle. Your donations are desperately needed in order to continue with this important action. This case will define the legality or illegality of the FRT itself.

Donations can be made directly via EMT to legal@albertatacticalrifle.com or through our GoFundMe fundraiser here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/ejrdm-class-action-to-reverse-illegal-rcmp-frt-changes?utm_medium=email&utm_source=product&utm_campaign=p_email%2Bhtml_summary_donations

For those who have Modern Series rifle or receiver sets ordered we ask for your continued patience while our legal team continues to fight to either determine once and for all that the FRT has no legal standing and we can release the product to our clients, or alternately we are awarded damages with which to purchase back what was sold after May 1 2020.
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Looking at this I have to wonder:

If you are successful would this mean that much of the FRT would be essentially invalid? I don't mean the normal classification stuff- a pistol is a restricted firearm and the AR15 was prohibited via OIC etc.

I mean the real "interpretive" stuff. Obviously the ATRS MS being classified as prohibited but also stuff like rimfire rifles that look a bit like an AR15 deemed prohib and 10/22 25 round magazines prohibited etc.

In any case, I have tried to be as supportive of as many legal actions as I can and will be sending another donation. Thanks from all of us.
 
Morc said:
I suspect the individualist tendencies of gun owners work against us sometimes.

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Yup, everyone has their own idea of what should be done and how best to do it.

I'm of the opinion that people should pick any cause they like and support it and if they don't support a particular cause- just don't stand in front of it.

Get behind it or get out of the way, so to speak.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
Great job Rick and Ed, I am saddened that more gun owners and organizations can not pull together. I will be sending you a personal cheque for $1,000.00 to assist your fight and a gesture of my support. I hope the majority of people reading this will see this for what it is, a vote of my support for your efferts and will follow with a similar show of support. It matters nothing to me who wins, only that Canadian gun owners succeed in the long run.

Cheers John
PS I don,t give a dam about the spelling!
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This. We are all in this together! I’ll do more business with companies lead by people like John. Cheers
 
I hope this gets settled before I get back from deployment... Its been a long wait of almost 2 years since the FRT.
I would hate to be overseas again and come back to find I own an illegal item after being months away.

God speed and good luck ATRS.
 
So does this mean ALL the other court actions pertaining to the OIC and cabinet confidentiality have been dismissed?
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
As some of you may know we have been anxiously awaiting a decision from Judge Gagne since June 29th 2021 when we had the opportunity to argue our motions in court.

We suffered some minor losses in our action against the government on October 21st 2021 when Judge Gagne handed down her decision regarding some parts of our claim. So far ALL of the assorted cases surrounding the May 1 debacle have suffered some motions being struck.

However….
The Federal Court supports the ATRS cause of action against the federal government and four RCMP employees (para 33 and 34 of her decisions). Against the stiff opposition put forward by government lawyers ATRS prevailed in maintaining the main and highly significant action for Misfeasance in a Public Office. This ruling opens the door to a finding of the FRT opinion database is unlawful and causes damages to businesses and individuals. At issue is the unlawfulness of the FRT itself and the culpability of the individual RCMP employees who are alleged to have acted beyond their duties and powers to cause direct harm to ATRS and Richard Timmins, along with thousands of other individuals that have been effected by the unlawful changes to the FRT classifications.

The other causes of action were passed over by the court and removed, allowing a tight focus on the RCMP employees creating the FRT database.
ATRS and Mr Timmins will now focus on those specific allegations and provide the court with strong evidence that the FRT opinions regarding the Modern Series rifles are wrong at law and in fact.

This is the only court case aimed directly at the lawfulness ( or lack thereof ) of the infamous FRT. Since the OIC challenges were denied a review of the FRT opinions this is "The Case" to continue the challenge. By preserving the MPO cause of action the court has shown it is focused on the FRT and the action of the RCMP. There will be no other claims to distract from this highly important issue.

This promises to be thee landmark case.

You can be part of this case by donating to ATRS and Rick Timmins. As in any case this is a struggle. Your donations are desperately needed in order to continue with this important action. This case will define the legality or illegality of the FRT itself.

Donations can be made directly via EMT to legal@albertatacticalrifle.com or through our GoFundMe fundraiser here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/ejrdm-class-action-to-reverse-illegal-rcmp-frt-changes?utm_medium=email&utm_source=product&utm_campaign=p_email%2Bhtml_summary_donations

For those who have Modern Series rifle or receiver sets ordered we ask for your continued patience while our legal team continues to fight to either determine once and for all that the FRT has no legal standing and we can release the product to our clients, or alternately we are awarded damages with which to purchase back what was sold after May 1 2020.
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So when can we expect the next hearing? When will we have some certainty? I know I'll be donating! And I'm very very very excited to buya Modern Sporter someday soon - I just wonder when? When will we know, realistically?
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Yeah I don't why CCFR is trying to torpedo us and our action. But they certainly seem to be trying hard to undermine us. They lost a number of their motions as all of the actions have. I believe this is mostly due to how the government plays ball and the fact that much of these cases is entering into uncharted territory.
The biggest problem the gun culture has is a total lacking of cohesiveness and I am at a loss as to why. We "should" all be in this together.
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Maybe something to do with arguments like this being made?

"...[38] The expropriation claims are stated in paragraphs 100-101 of the Amended Statement of Claim. The Plaintiffs allege that they are being deprived of their property because the Modern Series firearms are now prohibited and the Plaintiffs cannot use them for sport shooting or hunting. The Plaintiffs further argue that the Defendants receive a benefit, being, “now these firearms are not available for use to kill the greatest number of people in the shortest time.” ..."
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That doesn’t seem to help gun owners?
 
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