ATRS legal action update Nov 4 2021

Just a few more days to 4 years of the OIC, the legal limbo, and me per-ordering that receiver set.

I have been on 2 deployments, and 20 countries around the world since then.
4 years is enough to have joined the military and finish your contract and leave.

This may sound like a hyperbole, but I'm surprised I'm still alive and waiting.
 
MlCE said:
Just a few more days to 4 years of the OIC, the legal limbo, and me per-ordering that receiver set.

I have been on 2 deployments, and 20 countries around the world since then.
4 years is enough to have joined the military and finish your contract and leave.

This may sound like a hyperbole, but I'm surprised I'm still alive and waiting.
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Did you go to church and pray for patience? That must be it, can't be the government.....hari, hari, Krishna..
 
this has turned into a insane amount of time. all of us keeping our guns safely stored waiting for a decision to be made. its all just a tactic to keep law abiding citizens from using and enjoying our firearms.
 
ATRS Shaun said:
All of these are excellent questions, and I will ask Rick and Ed to put together what answers they are able to provide. I am curious as well.
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Shaun, Anything you can share?
P.S. the M40A5ish project you guys built for me is THE BEST gun ever...
 
MLNLB said:
Shaun, Anything you can share?
P.S. the M40A5ish project you guys built for me is THE BEST gun ever...
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It was already answered in a more appropriate thread, as Rankuwa mentioned. Here's the response.

ATRS Shaun said:
ATRS Response: No news currently.

My own personal opinion and not reflective of the opinion of my employer:

I'm not entirely convinced that's a bad thing... Given how punitive and vindictive the courts were against the CCFR/NFA/Hipwell case... Reading the decision stating that the RCMP do not owe firearm owners any procedural fairness, and the gooberment does not owe gun owners any procedural fairness... Doesn't really inspire confidence in the judiciary. And I think we have the same Judge if I'm not mistaken...

If the media was bought for 600 million... wonder how much it cost the Libs to buy the courts. Looks like it only took a handful of strategic appointments over the decades.
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mic1076 said:
Any Updates?
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Would also like an update here whether anything has come about recently. Would like to see those who invested in the product, only for it to be subsequently banned before receiving, have that $ go towards another one of their store products.
 
tslavin30 said:
Would also like an update here whether anything has come about recently. Would like to see those who invested in the product, only for it to be subsequently banned before receiving, have that $ go towards another one of their store products.
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Think its safe to say you can kiss that money goodbye if you haven't gotten it back yet. You'll probably end up with whatever the government is offering for their compensation program, straight from ATRS' warehouse to their smelter, sucks but it is what it is.
 
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I don't have any updates or info. As soon as I am told anything, I'll let you know.

All I've got is this little blurb:

Note on the Assault-Style Firearms Compensation Program:
The Government of Canada has announced the launch of a pilot program beginning October 1, 2025, to test the process for compensating individuals for firearms that were prohibited in 2020 under the “assault-style firearms” regulations. According to Public Safety Canada, this pilot will run in select areas first, before expanding nationally through a phased approach: a declaration period, collection of firearms, and payment of compensation.​

At this time, we have not been provided with any additional details as a business beyond what is publicly available on the Government of Canada’s website. We will be monitoring how the pilot program develops before making any announcements, decisions, or changes. We appreciate your patience and understanding as more information becomes available.
 
I've been looking at this case recently. I am not a lawyer and I was hoping someone can help me clarify some things. As I understand, the tort of misfeasance of public office has a very high bar, because you need prove that a public officer's unlawful actions were deliberate. Negligence is not enough, but they must have acted knowingly in bad faith. This is obviously very hard to prove.

With that said, for our purposes, as long as the court rules that their actions were ultra vires, that should be enough for ATRS to continue selling and for people to take out their Modern Series, correct? We could potentially lose the court case, fail to establish the bad faith element in the misfeasance claim and still walk away with a win. Obviously winning would be the icing on the cake as ATRS would be compensated but even that is not fully necessary.
 
I literally post on here im never compiling to the buyback. And the MS isn't actually banned. It's a grey area.

And I don't own a MS , I just come here to troll. Or maybe I'm just a liberal voter looking to stir #### up.

Either way #### the government. And if you think having my PAL revoked will scare me into compliance like the rest of the Canadian sheep that got the jab your sadly mistaken.
 
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AlbertaBandit said:
I literally post on here in never compiling to the buyback. And the MS isn't actually banned. It's a grey area.

And I don't own a MS , I just come here to troll. Or maybe I'm just a liberal voter looking to stir #### up.

Either way #### the government
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It is banned via OIC now. Gray area was when it was FRT only. Now it's on the books just an FYI. Just be careful amigo.
 
AlbertaBandit said:
I literally post on here im never compiling to the buyback. And the MS isn't actually banned. It's a grey area.

And I don't own a MS , I just come here to troll. Or maybe I'm just a liberal voter looking to stir #### up.

Either way #### the government. And if you think having my PAL revoked will scare me into compliance like the rest of the Canadian sheep that got the jab your sadly mistaken.
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People are still openly selling MS on here and ####### etc. and nothing has happened to them. And with the amount of people still using them, after 5 years as far as I know not a single person has been charged for using their MS, never mind go to trial.

I'm convinced this is simply a can of worms that the Crown doesn't want to open.
 
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