ATTENTION: all handgun owners - political issue - banning handguns
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Defeating this Corrupt Liberal Government
Hi All,
Listen, we won't win even if all gun enthusiasts vote against Liberals. The fact is that it's the non-gun owners that are killing us. They are killing us because they are 1. in greater numbers 2. don't know about the gun issue 3. don' care about the gun issue. Would you care about the gun issue if you were not into guns?
The Liberals are very smart and evil. They know this fact too and they've defined the Gun Control item as thier party platform to specifically DIVIDE AND CONGQUER the canadian vote. Think about it, the west is mostly shooters and know the issues, the city slickers are the ones dumb as dirt on this issue. But there are also way more city slickers (and thus party seats) than rural citizens.
The way we can fight is to get non-shooters to vote on our side. How do we do this when they don't know or don't care about the guns issue?
Use an issue that UNITES ALL Canadians ("Liberal Corruption"). See, this was the issue all along and is why the Conservatives brought down the government. The Liberals in turn has used the Gun Control issue to DIVIDE the voters and move attention away from thier corruption (the old smoke and mirror trick. See, they aren't as stupid as we always thought right?. They are actually super smart, coniving, evil and corrupt on power.
Let's each write an email encouraging people to remember how corrupt the Liberals are, how much they lie and cheat and how we need to fix this first before we can do anything else. You don't even need to write anything about the GUN issue!. This is how we can get non-gunners to vote against the Liberals. Then send this email to all your friends, family and co-workers? (maybe). Especially send this email to non-shooters. Sending to shooters is preaching to the chior, it will be feel good but won't get those corrupt guys out of power. Then encourage them to send it to everyone they know.
This is one of the quickest way to communicated to ALL our fellow citizens and we only have less than two months to do it.
Sincerely,
on-ca
Opps, wrong thread. Oh well..
Hi All,
Listen, we won't win even if all gun enthusiasts vote against Liberals. The fact is that it's the non-gun owners that are killing us. They are killing us because they are 1. in greater numbers 2. don't know about the gun issue 3. don' care about the gun issue. Would you care about the gun issue if you were not into guns?
The Liberals are very smart and evil. They know this fact too and they've defined the Gun Control item as thier party platform to specifically DIVIDE AND CONGQUER the canadian vote. Think about it, the west is mostly shooters and know the issues, the city slickers are the ones dumb as dirt on this issue. But there are also way more city slickers (and thus party seats) than rural citizens.
The way we can fight is to get non-shooters to vote on our side. How do we do this when they don't know or don't care about the guns issue?
Use an issue that UNITES ALL Canadians ("Liberal Corruption"). See, this was the issue all along and is why the Conservatives brought down the government. The Liberals in turn has used the Gun Control issue to DIVIDE the voters and move attention away from thier corruption (the old smoke and mirror trick. See, they aren't as stupid as we always thought right?. They are actually super smart, coniving, evil and corrupt on power.
Let's each write an email encouraging people to remember how corrupt the Liberals are, how much they lie and cheat and how we need to fix this first before we can do anything else. You don't even need to write anything about the GUN issue!. This is how we can get non-gunners to vote against the Liberals. Then send this email to all your friends, family and co-workers? (maybe). Especially send this email to non-shooters. Sending to shooters is preaching to the chior, it will be feel good but won't get those corrupt guys out of power. Then encourage them to send it to everyone they know.
This is one of the quickest way to communicated to ALL our fellow citizens and we only have less than two months to do it.
Sincerely,
on-ca
Opps, wrong thread. Oh well..
jonkz said:I honestly don’t think there is anything we can do to stop this. If the liberals get in they will ban our handguns and we have no property rights in this country, no right to bear arms, and little chance to get a Conservative minority, which will most likely be toppled in a year anyways. The odds are stacked so far against us that all the time and energy we put into this issue will be in vain. I was going to go get my restricted license, but now why bother if I can’t shoot hand guns, why bother living in a country that is so centralized, and biased to the eastern ideology? Cant the West separate? I don’t like being Canadian anymore. I don’t like our politics our politicians are self interested and Canadians like to be treated like dirt. I don’t like the way I am treated in this country. Criminals run our country now and it’s high time we break up this country. If quebec wants to leave, we should too.
Sorry to be rude, but if you are tired fighting for your freedom and don't think it can be won, THEN YOU DON'T DESERVE IT!!!! Don't think this is just about banning handguns, or even all guns. This is about control, plain and simple. As evidenced by their policies and comments, our government does not believe we can look after ourselves. If they give us OUR tax money back, we will waste it on "Beer and popcorn". No need to defend yourself, just call the police! They'll come help you (sorry bout cutting their funding though). According to our lovely deputy PM, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms has no relevance. We, the shoeple cannot be trusted to make our own decisions.
I'm sorry, but that's not the Canada that I remember growing up in (I'm only 27, what the hell happened in those 20 years?). DO NOT GIVE UP!!! Because THEY WON'T
If the liberals pass a law banning guns in Canada please send them to me here in Georgia and I will find a nice adoptive home for each of them.
On the more serious side it's always amazing to me that liberals can't seem to understand that the only persons who would give up their weapons in Canada are the good, law abiding ones.. Gun bans haven't worked in England so now their liberal politicians are going after "sharp knives".. Guess you folks in Canada can expect to lose your pointy tipped knives next?
I can't figure out the thinking of the majority of Canadian citizens in going for this stuff, but heck, we've got a pile of them in the good old USA too....
Thank goodness for the 2nd amendment... You guys need one too!
Best Wishes,
JP
On the more serious side it's always amazing to me that liberals can't seem to understand that the only persons who would give up their weapons in Canada are the good, law abiding ones.. Gun bans haven't worked in England so now their liberal politicians are going after "sharp knives".. Guess you folks in Canada can expect to lose your pointy tipped knives next?
I can't figure out the thinking of the majority of Canadian citizens in going for this stuff, but heck, we've got a pile of them in the good old USA too....
Thank goodness for the 2nd amendment... You guys need one too!
Best Wishes,
JP
I think the Liberals will have a big fight on their hands in trying to ban handguns.... we can not let them. What will be next? Once they get away with it once they take full advantage and it wouldn't end. Why don't they get tough with drug dealers? That's where the problem stems from.
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sambr said:
Sambr this is Canada the land of compromise. If the Lie berals ever go for the ban we will just give in just like we always have. What are we going to do. We can not even organize a descent demonstration.
You are kidding right ? This is called wishfull thinking buddy.
The truth is our Liberal Government by centralizing and sucking Canadian's dry is turning into a Socialist monster. It keeps on growing and growing and feeds on fear. Fear of dying in an hospital corridor. Fear of losing your pension check. Fear of losing citizenship. Fear of guns.
Do you realise Ottawa as 10,000 employees managing our healtcare system and the only thing they do is regulate and cut the provinces their checks?
Do the math 10,000 x $60,000 a year = $ 600 millions dollars a year.
The truth is the Federal entity instead of being a facilitator of Canadian Unity is dividing Canada like never before.
The Bloc will win again massively.
The West will be passed by AGAIN.
Ontario will elect the liberals AGAIN.
And Quebec will attempt separation again but they won't do it. Ultimately Quebec Separation = bankruptcy. Quebec is in serious debt and it's economy would not bear it's share of the Canadian deficit. It is a losing battle.
Plus they are too scared. A bunch of sheep hypnotized by their mediocre media and led to the slaughterhouse by their good friends the communist union leaders.
So as a french speaking Canadian living in Quebec I am actually turning myself toward Alberta and BC and boy ! I do hope you guys get really really upset this time and seperate yourselves from this Banana Republic. You have the ressources and you have reasons.
Hell once it's done I'm moving myself in with you guys.
Until then I'll vote conservative and work on my accent.
Not to belittle anyone's (quite rightful) feelings on the issue, but, this is not about the logic of gun ownership and its not about Liberal stupidity. These are distractions, IMO.
It's as simple as this: the Liberals know that attacking us has won them votes in the past.They will stop messing with our guns the minute it costs them an election ... let's keep at making this a reality.
It's as simple as this: the Liberals know that attacking us has won them votes in the past.They will stop messing with our guns the minute it costs them an election ... let's keep at making this a reality.
If handguns are banned, which I don't think will happen, a large number of guns will not be taken away.
This is how I see things:
1)Handguns are banned. Some protests follow.
2)Less than half of handguns will be turned in by fearfull gun owners.
3)The remaining 50% + will take a tough stand on this issue, thereaning civil disobedience, protests, etc...some, even violence. The Liberal Govt issues warnings to these gun owners not to #### with the (new) law and the system, while realizing things are very bad for them. They have turned a small issue onto something very big and dangerous(A BIG CAN OF WORMS), they are worried. What have we gotten ourselves into?
4)Gun owners who get charged with other offences(NON gun related) will now loose their handguns and long rifles; the government feels it has a good excuse to confiscate in this case.
5)First visits(to gun owners who refused to surrender their guns), from the confiscation task force spark violence and even some bloody shootouts. The situation is bad. Many farms throught the West have signs saying "tresspassers should expect armed response".
I do not want to speculate on how bad things will get, but there will be a point where the people of Central Canada(you know who you are ) will wake up. The Lieberals will (very) slowly begin another handgun amnesty, which will eventually lead to the scrapping of the whole thing...and of course those who gave up their handguns cannot have them back because they were destroyed; and they cannot buy any more because they do not have the proper licence. oops
At the end of this process both the liberals and gun owners will have some closure; the Commies in Ottawa will be happy that they have sliced a huge chunk of Candian gun ownership, while the remaining gun owners have consolidated their postion on this issue.
But maybe I don't know Canadians very well, maybe they will surrender their guns within two weeks of legislation coming into effect.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot...there will of course be an inquiery into the whole scandal, which will mean plenty more millions down the drain.
This is how I see things:
1)Handguns are banned. Some protests follow.
2)Less than half of handguns will be turned in by fearfull gun owners.
3)The remaining 50% + will take a tough stand on this issue, thereaning civil disobedience, protests, etc...some, even violence. The Liberal Govt issues warnings to these gun owners not to #### with the (new) law and the system, while realizing things are very bad for them. They have turned a small issue onto something very big and dangerous(A BIG CAN OF WORMS), they are worried. What have we gotten ourselves into?
4)Gun owners who get charged with other offences(NON gun related) will now loose their handguns and long rifles; the government feels it has a good excuse to confiscate in this case.
5)First visits(to gun owners who refused to surrender their guns), from the confiscation task force spark violence and even some bloody shootouts. The situation is bad. Many farms throught the West have signs saying "tresspassers should expect armed response".
I do not want to speculate on how bad things will get, but there will be a point where the people of Central Canada(you know who you are
) will wake up. The Lieberals will (very) slowly begin another handgun amnesty, which will eventually lead to the scrapping of the whole thing...and of course those who gave up their handguns cannot have them back because they were destroyed; and they cannot buy any more because they do not have the proper licence. oopsAt the end of this process both the liberals and gun owners will have some closure; the Commies in Ottawa will be happy that they have sliced a huge chunk of Candian gun ownership, while the remaining gun owners have consolidated their postion on this issue.
But maybe I don't know Canadians very well, maybe they will surrender their guns within two weeks of legislation coming into effect.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot...there will of course be an inquiery into the whole scandal, which will mean plenty more millions down the drain.
MasterPython
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That is overly optimistic. Lieberals admiting mistakes or learning from themcz52 said:
MasterPython said:
Oh yes, you're right about the liberal way of thinking.
But not for a second a meant that they admitted to anything or learning from their mistakes. They would be forced to do this before they get ripped to pieces. I mean they have the survivability skills of coyotes, they adapt to survive.
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- Calgary, Alberta
Politicians rarely admit to making mistakes and never on gun control, imx. We have so many gun laws in this country that have been proven to be a total waste of time, such as a ban on centrefire pump and semi-auto rifles as well as handguns, and firearm-related crime is far higher now than it was when those two measures were enacted.
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- Calgary, Alberta
canuck said:
The problem with it is that from a simple economic standpoint it's not viable unless BC goes along with it, and they don't want to separate, in fact the Liberals are leading there at the moment. You can't have an economy based purely around oil and gas exploration, it's too vunerable to changes in the price of oil. If all the Provinces from Manitoba west formed a separate country, that would be workable, but I think only in Alberta is there any real sympathy with the idea. Saskatchewan also has a Liberal government at the moment.
I think the more likely scenario is the devolution of more power from the Federal govt. to the provinces, because Quebec, Alberta and the Atlantic provinces are all keen on that idea.
I also think eventually the BQ will give up on separatism for Quebec, and start running candidates in northern Ontario and New Brunswick.
".....So as a french speaking Canadian living in Quebec I am actually turning myself toward Alberta and BC and boy ! I do hope you guys get really really upset this time and seperate yourselves from this Banana Republic. You have the ressources and you have reasons..."
This is the best post I have ever read on any forum. As an English speaking Quebecer, I truly sympathize with what you Westerners have to constantly put up with from Quebec and Ontario. The socialist Liberals, most of which are from Quebec anyway, are eliminating our freedoms in order to win votes in urban Ontario and stay in power. You have all the oil, second largest reserves after Saudi Arabia, yet you get screwed by the goddam easterners, remember the National Oil Policy??
I hope to God the Bloc, and the PQ force a referendum, not for the reasons you all think. Because I hope to God you fine Westerners get fed up enough with eastern crap and decide to split yourselves. You would be one of the richest countries in the world, certainly richer than the Canada that is left without your oil. That way, I will be the first to apply for citizenship in your rich, right eing, conservative land.
westerners, rise up to the tyranny of the Eastern bastards who strip you from some of your wealth in order to remove your freedoms.
God bless Western conservatism!
This is the best post I have ever read on any forum. As an English speaking Quebecer, I truly sympathize with what you Westerners have to constantly put up with from Quebec and Ontario. The socialist Liberals, most of which are from Quebec anyway, are eliminating our freedoms in order to win votes in urban Ontario and stay in power. You have all the oil, second largest reserves after Saudi Arabia, yet you get screwed by the goddam easterners, remember the National Oil Policy??
I hope to God the Bloc, and the PQ force a referendum, not for the reasons you all think. Because I hope to God you fine Westerners get fed up enough with eastern crap and decide to split yourselves. You would be one of the richest countries in the world, certainly richer than the Canada that is left without your oil. That way, I will be the first to apply for citizenship in your rich, right eing, conservative land.
westerners, rise up to the tyranny of the Eastern bastards who strip you from some of your wealth in order to remove your freedoms.
God bless Western conservatism!
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We need King Ralph to lead the way!!!
King Ralph will stab Harper in the back again.
He is a Goddamned closet Lieberal, and mark my words, when he is done with provincial politics will be apointed as a Lieberal senator.
As far as the handgun ban goes, bury them, hide them, but never give them up.
He is a Goddamned closet Lieberal, and mark my words, when he is done with provincial politics will be apointed as a Lieberal senator.
As far as the handgun ban goes, bury them, hide them, but never give them up.
jonkz is not that far off decentralizing the country would not be a bad thing. b.c. with their heavy lean to the left would certainly be haven for soccer moms and do gooders who would have us all play together like nice boys and girls with no guns. it is time to organize an answer to a possible conservative defeat in the next election i believe that perhaps our voice is not loud enough and we should consider turning up th e volume i wil not allow them to take my guns it is part of our heritage and part of my life as a sportsman. i hate to say this because it is a bit hackneyed "they can have my guns when they pry them out of my cold dead fingers" does everyone have a membership to the nfa or another firearms advocacy group! if you don't you have not done your part. vote conservative in the next election and send the liberals a message and let them know in your arwea it was bnased on their stand on the gun issue!
