Attention Ontario / Canadian Residents senior anglers

Chas

Chas

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Mods - I ask that you keep this here as most hunters are anglers as well....

Attached is the link to the environmental registry for Sustainability Strategy for the Fish and Wildlife Special Purpose Account, 2014-2019. It is listed as EBR Registry Number: # 012-0623

The summary with it doesn't indicate that one of the proposals is to require Ontario and Canadian resident seniors to purchase a (reduced cost) angling license. Currently they fish for free. You need to open the draft strategy document and look at ~ Page 35 and there it is....

If you agree with the proposal or if you don't, you should post your comments on this proposed licensing requirement. There are only 47 days to submit comments.

http://www.ebr.gov.on.ca/ERS-WEB-External/displaynoticecontent.do?noticeId=MTIxMTUx&statusId=MTgxMzUy&language=en
 
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I do know a lot of seniors who like the idea of free fishing licences and could afford to pay. Some seniors are on a very tight budget and cannot afford to pay. Maybe have everyone pay and you can apply for a rebate with your taxes if you make under so much per year. The MNR is asking for ideas how to raise money and how to get more people involved in fishing and hunting. I hope some of us can come up with some ideas and post them here and on the MNR website. If we can get more money into their budget maybe we can help ourselves with some of the problems we have like the moose hunt.
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@mnr/@oc/documents/document/stdprod_110525.pdf
 
Seniors have paid into our resources and economy for 50+ years... there is no reason for this take away... they should continue to fish for free.
 
I think any senior should not have to buy a fishing or hunting licence in this province. I have to chuckle how the MNR is "looking for ideas to raise money and encourage more people to partake in hunting and fishing" seems to fly in it's own face.
Darryl
 
Number of fishing licenses is dropping (in part because of aging population no longer requiring licenses. Thats a budget short fall which is increasing every year. The lost money isnt a myth, its happening, common sense tell us that much.

Now im against seniors paying as well, but the shortfall by dropping licenses alone has to be covered by something.
 
I've been a senior for a good many years. Last year I went out to fish for 4 hours one afternoon while on our annual moose hunt. Might have also fished for a total of 1 or 2 hours while on trips to our daughter/sil's cottage during the summer. If they impose a license I would probably just say the heck with it and quit. With the changes in moose tag allotments, this year could very well be my last year to moose hunt.

I have often wondered why as many guys hunt moose as do given the difficulty in getting adult moose tags. Personally in the areas where we hunt seeing a calf moose is almost a non-event. I can only remember us seeing and taking one moose calf in the last 15 to 20 years. I wouldn't be bothered going moose hunting if there weren't any adult tags in camp. And no, we do not take large numbers of moose, usually one per year for the party.

I think we need to be putting the pressure on our MPP's to provide adequate funding for the MNR. They keep talking and advertising about getting more tourist dollars into the province but they do not want to spend any money to provide the resources needed to attract these tourists.

Jim
 
Its not just the licence for seniors there is also the price of the outdoors card, processing fees, and how about this "Would you support an outdoor recreational equipment tax with proceeds dedicated to funding fish and wildlife conservation? If yes,
at what rate should the tax be set? (e.g., 1.5 per cent, two per cent)" Yea right!!!
 
1. We are being taxed to death by the corrupt bunch at Queen's Park. The billion or so the taxpayers spent to cancel a couple gas plants could have funded any number of useful or even necessary activities. Boondoggle after boondoggle, that's what we have been getting from McWynnety and their band of crooks.

Having said that............

2. Most Baby Boomers have had good jobs and many of us have defined benefit pension plans. We are probably the most financially advantaged generation ever in Canadian history. Almost all of us can AFFORD to buy a licence, more so than many of our youth who cannot find decent jobs that pay a living wage.

So I think it is at least reasonable that ways be examined to help pay for budget shortfalls, provided that the money stays in the Special Account for fish and wildlife activities. And there's the rub - a fiscally irresponsible government that has wasted untold billions of dollars of OUR money and has introduced dozens of new taxes on its citizens CANNOT be trusted to keep their hands out of the cookie jar. MAYBE a new government under the Conservatives could be trusted.........or not...........and last I heard, Mike Harris was not coming back. YES he cancelled the spring bear hunt but he also imposed financial constraints and cut red tape and left the province better off financially.

(rant rant grumble grumble........)

Doug
 
Doug said:
...and last I heard, Mike Harris was not coming back. YES he cancelled the spring bear hunt but he also imposed financial constraints and cut red tape and left the province better off financially. Doug
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Doug... when the incoming government took over from Harris they discovered cooked books and billions in unrecorded debt... Harris was never held accountable for that OR the politically corrupt cancellation of the spring bear hunt... I can do without Harris or his rat-faced side-kick, Snobolen.
 
Yes I think that practically EVERY government makes this claim:

"when the incoming government took over ... they discovered cooked books and billions in unrecorded debt"

I imagine Harris also said that when he was elected, and I have seen this in most elections, federal and provincial, that I paid any attention to. Painting the last government as bad is pretty standard.........

But yes, it was him that cancelled the spring bear hunt and I think most of us have never forgiven him for that.

Doug
 
Do CO's still have to investigate seniors and ensure they're following the rules? They sure do which means funds collected from non seniors are being used to fund enforcement of non paying seniors. Speaking of enforcement, Ontario definitely does not have enough conservation officers due to a dwindling budget.

You wanna play, you get to pay. However, I do think reduced fees for seniors or low income families would be a good thing.
 
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