I'll leave it up to the various province members to fill in what needs to be done in each province. Once they are all filled I'll lock the thread and leave it up for further reference. I will also remove any replies that don't provide the info people need. So please don't bother posting unless you can fill us in on all the steps for your province, as I'll just nuke the post anyhow.
ATT's what you need to know
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Ontario
You do not need to belong to a club to buy a restricted firearm. The CFC will ask you which club you will be shooting the firearm at. You may choose at this point to say that you are a collector (not a good thing) or that you are thinking of joining ###X club. In reality, it is best that you have already joined a club before you decide to own restricted firearms.
Steps to take:
1. Make sure you have your restricted qualification first. If not, then take the course and write or challenge the exam.
2. Join a firearm club/range. In Ontario, they will eventually send in the ATT application for you.
3. Buy a restricted firearm. The CFO will give you a TATT (temporary authority to transport). Now you can take that restricted firearm home. Note: You can only transport it directly home, after which the TATT will be of no use again. You will want to own a restricted firearm at this point in time because the club may need a restricted firearm serial # when they apply for an ATT for you. You need a restricted firearm to apply for an ATT or else the CFO will not issue one.
4. Take a club approved handgun safety course.
5. Hand in your successful marking of the exam or a letter stating that you have passed the course to your secretary of your club as well as your firearm serial number. Note: Other clubs do not require your firearm serial number. Ask exactly what they need from you. Also ask for the greatest time limit and distance you can have on your ATT.
6. After the club receives your ATT back, you will then be called in to take an orientation of the club you belong to. At this time, you will be handed your ATT.
Your ATT is good for only exactly what it states. Read it carefully.
This process took me about 5 months from beginning to end (Oct. 2005/Feb. 2006).
Any finer points that I may have overlooked, please send me a PM.
Two pointers thanks to Bushwacker
Your Ontario ATT is good for transportation to any Ontario CFO approved range in the province.
Upon the ATT expiry date, your club may opt to apply for ATTs for up to 5 years duration (up from previous maximum of 3). Some ranges still apply annually.
You do not need to belong to a club to buy a restricted firearm. The CFC will ask you which club you will be shooting the firearm at. You may choose at this point to say that you are a collector (not a good thing) or that you are thinking of joining ###X club. In reality, it is best that you have already joined a club before you decide to own restricted firearms.
Steps to take:
1. Make sure you have your restricted qualification first. If not, then take the course and write or challenge the exam.
2. Join a firearm club/range. In Ontario, they will eventually send in the ATT application for you.
3. Buy a restricted firearm. The CFO will give you a TATT (temporary authority to transport). Now you can take that restricted firearm home. Note: You can only transport it directly home, after which the TATT will be of no use again. You will want to own a restricted firearm at this point in time because the club may need a restricted firearm serial # when they apply for an ATT for you. You need a restricted firearm to apply for an ATT or else the CFO will not issue one.
4. Take a club approved handgun safety course.
5. Hand in your successful marking of the exam or a letter stating that you have passed the course to your secretary of your club as well as your firearm serial number. Note: Other clubs do not require your firearm serial number. Ask exactly what they need from you. Also ask for the greatest time limit and distance you can have on your ATT.
6. After the club receives your ATT back, you will then be called in to take an orientation of the club you belong to. At this time, you will be handed your ATT.
Your ATT is good for only exactly what it states. Read it carefully.
This process took me about 5 months from beginning to end (Oct. 2005/Feb. 2006).
Any finer points that I may have overlooked, please send me a PM.
Two pointers thanks to Bushwacker
Your Ontario ATT is good for transportation to any Ontario CFO approved range in the province.
Upon the ATT expiry date, your club may opt to apply for ATTs for up to 5 years duration (up from previous maximum of 3). Some ranges still apply annually.
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Alberta
1. Take restricted firearms course.
2. Join a club (this is not a requirement in Alberta, and is an optional step)
3. Buy a Handgun or Black Rifle, or one of each, and 20,000 rounds of ammo, you will be issued an ATT to take it home (temporary).
4. Call the CFC at 1-800-731-4000 and tell them you would like a long term ATT with the following conditions attached:
a: You want to be able to transport firearms to all approved ranges all over Western Canada, including the Territories. (BC,AB,SK,MB,YK,NWT,NVT)
You want it for 5 years, or until the expiry date of your PAL
c: You want to be able to transport all legally posessed firearms, which means you can borrow them from friends and family provided you have the registration certificate
d: You want it good 24/7 and good for all Border Crossing into the USA
5. Go redneck go!!!!!!!!! You are now armed with the most important piece of paper concering your precious few firearms freedoms!!
6. Attempt to get an Authorization To Carry permit for when you are in the wilderness. Let us know how you make out!!
1. Take restricted firearms course.
2. Join a club (this is not a requirement in Alberta, and is an optional step)
3. Buy a Handgun or Black Rifle, or one of each, and 20,000 rounds of ammo, you will be issued an ATT to take it home (temporary).
4. Call the CFC at 1-800-731-4000 and tell them you would like a long term ATT with the following conditions attached:
a: You want to be able to transport firearms to all approved ranges all over Western Canada, including the Territories. (BC,AB,SK,MB,YK,NWT,NVT)
You want it for 5 years, or until the expiry date of your PALc: You want to be able to transport all legally posessed firearms, which means you can borrow them from friends and family provided you have the registration certificate
d: You want it good 24/7 and good for all Border Crossing into the USA
5. Go redneck go!!!!!!!!! You are now armed with the most important piece of paper concering your precious few firearms freedoms!!
6. Attempt to get an Authorization To Carry permit for when you are in the wilderness. Let us know how you make out!!
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British Columbia
Long term ATT's are issued for a period of up to 5 years, or however long your PAL is valid for. Club membership is not required.
When filling out the form include; name, address, PAL #, phone #, name of range that you will primarily be shooting at, sign and date it and leave the rest ofthe form blank. Your ATT will come back being valid for all ranges in western Canada, all gunsmiths and all border crossings providing that you have the appropriate U.S. documentation.
Melissa is at the Surrey CFC office and handles long term Authorization To Transport applications for restricted firearms. Her number is 1-800-731-4000 ext 9563.
The fax number is 604-586-2402.
The office is located at
CFC NW Region - Pacific District
400-10470 152 Street
Surrey, B.C.
V3R 0Y3
The ATT application form can be downloaded here. http://www.cfc.gc.ca/online-en_ligne/form-assistance/indiv_forms/679_e.asp
Long term ATT's are issued for a period of up to 5 years, or however long your PAL is valid for. Club membership is not required.
When filling out the form include; name, address, PAL #, phone #, name of range that you will primarily be shooting at, sign and date it and leave the rest ofthe form blank. Your ATT will come back being valid for all ranges in western Canada, all gunsmiths and all border crossings providing that you have the appropriate U.S. documentation.
Melissa is at the Surrey CFC office and handles long term Authorization To Transport applications for restricted firearms. Her number is 1-800-731-4000 ext 9563.
The fax number is 604-586-2402.
The office is located at
CFC NW Region - Pacific District
400-10470 152 Street
Surrey, B.C.
V3R 0Y3
The ATT application form can be downloaded here. http://www.cfc.gc.ca/online-en_ligne/form-assistance/indiv_forms/679_e.asp
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happiness is a warm gun
Regular
Re Ontario
You do not need to belong to a club to buy a restricted firearm. The CFC will ask you which club you will be shooting the firearm at. You may choose at this point to say that you are a collector.
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You can not say your a collector. You must have Collector Status with the CFO already. The CFO will send you the paper work to apply for your Collector Status. But be aware that when you do, you agree to waive all civils rights and allow home inspection by the CFO on demand(with in a reasonable time frame). I have Collector Status in Ontario.
You do not need to belong to a club to buy a restricted firearm. The CFC will ask you which club you will be shooting the firearm at. You may choose at this point to say that you are a collector.
>>>this is not correct<<<
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You can not say your a collector. You must have Collector Status with the CFO already. The CFO will send you the paper work to apply for your Collector Status. But be aware that when you do, you agree to waive all civils rights and allow home inspection by the CFO on demand(with in a reasonable time frame). I have Collector Status in Ontario.
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Manitoba
1. You take the restricted course and write the exam and pass with less than 10 wrong or challenge the exam and pass with less than 10 wrong.(some instructors will not accept a challenge of the exam).
2. When you have your restricted (which could take a few months) you join a club/range first or you can purchase a handgun first, BUT.. If you do not belong to a range/club the CFO will only issue a temporary ATT for specific purposes at specific times, and may require more detailed info from you or supply you with more hassle than if you do belong to a club.(Or they may insist you join a club/range).
3. If you purchase a handgun from a dealer without a club membership you can have him tell the CFO that you are a collector and plan to join a club (give them a name of one). The dealer will obtain the temporary ATT for you to take the gun to your legal place of storage for a specific time usually no longer than 12-16 hours.
4. If you belong to a club/range you give the CFO your membership # and the CFO issues an ATT for 5 years for transport from (A) your legal place of storage to (B) "all approved ranges in Manitoba" (C) to a "licenced Gunsmith for maintenace or repair", (D) "back to the place of registation",(E) "to and from US border crossings" (accompanied with proper US documents) for any time of the day/night for any guns you own or plan to own. All these places are on the one ATT. You must transport it/them by all reasonable circumstances directly from A to B, A to C, A to D, etc and back again. You must be in possession of the registration certificate for each gun and they must be transported unloaded and locked. My ATT was ready in 30 minutes.
5. When you purchase more handguns, you or the dealer can call the CFO for another temporary ATT to take that gun to your legal place of storage. But you do not have to do anything to your 5 yr. ATT. The temporary ATT reason for a gun you buy is listed as "Newly Acquired"
1. You take the restricted course and write the exam and pass with less than 10 wrong or challenge the exam and pass with less than 10 wrong.(some instructors will not accept a challenge of the exam).
2. When you have your restricted (which could take a few months) you join a club/range first or you can purchase a handgun first, BUT.. If you do not belong to a range/club the CFO will only issue a temporary ATT for specific purposes at specific times, and may require more detailed info from you or supply you with more hassle than if you do belong to a club.(Or they may insist you join a club/range).
3. If you purchase a handgun from a dealer without a club membership you can have him tell the CFO that you are a collector and plan to join a club (give them a name of one). The dealer will obtain the temporary ATT for you to take the gun to your legal place of storage for a specific time usually no longer than 12-16 hours.
4. If you belong to a club/range you give the CFO your membership # and the CFO issues an ATT for 5 years for transport from (A) your legal place of storage to (B) "all approved ranges in Manitoba" (C) to a "licenced Gunsmith for maintenace or repair", (D) "back to the place of registation",(E) "to and from US border crossings" (accompanied with proper US documents) for any time of the day/night for any guns you own or plan to own. All these places are on the one ATT. You must transport it/them by all reasonable circumstances directly from A to B, A to C, A to D, etc and back again. You must be in possession of the registration certificate for each gun and they must be transported unloaded and locked. My ATT was ready in 30 minutes.
5. When you purchase more handguns, you or the dealer can call the CFO for another temporary ATT to take that gun to your legal place of storage. But you do not have to do anything to your 5 yr. ATT. The temporary ATT reason for a gun you buy is listed as "Newly Acquired"
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Re: Manitoba ATT
I have not checked this possibility out, but I'm sure if you requested the ATT to include ranges in other provinces, they would include this in the conditions.
If anyone knows for sure the answer to this, please respond. I will probably call the CFO and find out.
The CFO is located at:
1680 Ellice Ave.
Winnipeg, Manitoba
R3H 0Z2
They want all telephone inquiries to be directed through the CFC in Miramichi, but if I look through my paper work I may have a local number for them.
I have not checked this possibility out, but I'm sure if you requested the ATT to include ranges in other provinces, they would include this in the conditions.
If anyone knows for sure the answer to this, please respond. I will probably call the CFO and find out.
The CFO is located at:
1680 Ellice Ave.
Winnipeg, Manitoba
R3H 0Z2
They want all telephone inquiries to be directed through the CFC in Miramichi, but if I look through my paper work I may have a local number for them.
Ontario Procedure question
Hello there, new guy here as you can see.
Here's my questions/situation;
1. I intend on buying my first handgun online from a reputable Canadian store.
Can I go ahead and order the pistol before I have the ATT since it's coming in the mail? Or is there different steps to take?
2. Do I have to join a club before I order the pistol?
I read the sticky but there's still a bit of confusion here on what I should do first and in what order. Thank you.
omen said:
Hello there, new guy here as you can see.
Here's my questions/situation;
1. I intend on buying my first handgun online from a reputable Canadian store.
Can I go ahead and order the pistol before I have the ATT since it's coming in the mail? Or is there different steps to take?
2. Do I have to join a club before I order the pistol?
I read the sticky but there's still a bit of confusion here on what I should do first and in what order. Thank you.
Dumby said:
The CFO will issue a one way transport ATT from the seller to your residence and its generally valid for 2 weeks to a month (I've seen both). In Ontario, you won't get a long term ATT (presently) until you: a) join a club; and b) taken the CFO mandated club level safety course. Clubs vary significantly in the degree of political correctness they apply to the course. You should have a club in mind when you start the process.
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Ok, I just want to get this clear. I'm in Ontario and I've applied to a club for membership (I already have my restricted PAL). I'm in a queue waiting for the club handgun course to start (apparently will happen within a month) If what I am reading is correct, I could go out tomorrow, purchase a restricted firearm from a dealer, then apply for a short term ATT to take the firearm home. I tell the CFC that I am waiting for the course at the club. I can then take the restricted firearm home, throw it in the safe, and let it sit until I can get my club ATT. Sounds good?
Yes you can purchase the restricted gun and you will get a ATT from the CFC to get it from the seller to home. If its a dealer they will do this for you. Then you must complete your club requirements for membership and they will apply for your ATT, that will allow you to take your gun from home to any range in Ontario. It is in fact easier for the club to get you the ATT if you already own the gun. My 2 cents ,,,,,Maxable said:
happiness is a warm gun
Regular
sxyglock17 said:You HAVE to own a restricted firearm BEFORE the club can send in your ATT paperwork
The club can still send in the paper work, but an ATT will be refused if you don't own a restricted firearm.
The CFO change their policys last year, yet failed to inform any of the clubs of this change about ATTs.
You'll still get an ATT to take your new purchase home, which can take anywhere from 2 days to six weeks. Then you can admire it, clean it, fondle it, but not transport it any where to shoot it.
That's unless your spouse has already has an ATT, since the restricted firearms is registered to the residence, your spouse can still transport it to the range for you on their ATT. God I loved teasing my wife when I could transport her guns and she couldn't! Best fun I had in years
Saskatchewan Procedure
1. Take restricted firearm and place behind seat in pick up.
2. Drive to field
3. Shoot
4. Hump your cousin.
Actually, it's the same as Alberta. Fill in your info, leave guns and what not empty. Make a note requesting for 24/7 until PAL expires, all ranges in BC, AB, SK, MB, border crossings, and gunsmiths.
Wait a week. Shoot.
1. Take restricted firearm and place behind seat in pick up.
2. Drive to field
3. Shoot
4. Hump your cousin.
Actually, it's the same as Alberta. Fill in your info, leave guns and what not empty. Make a note requesting for 24/7 until PAL expires, all ranges in BC, AB, SK, MB, border crossings, and gunsmiths.
Wait a week. Shoot.
