Well SilentRadar, You the man and proved my new Labradar is presently a $1000 dollar bright , nice colour, orange PAPERWEIGHT. I don't understand why I continually buy the best money can buy and continually get products that are defective. Think im gonna have my shooting buddies by the toys and reimburse them as I use to do and all worked out fine. Since purchasing my own expensive goodies im runnin 0 for three! First is the vudoo that wouldn't extract shells and they wouldn't really stand up but thanks to Insite Arms and Harley for steppin up and grabbin the bull by the horns and getting it done! They are a first class operation and build the most accurate rifles ive ever had the pleasure to own and put rounds down range! Indebted to both Harley and Andrew, many thanks. Second is the new Anschutz 1710 XLR that jams on loading and bends rounds fed from the magazine, all nine that I own plus the ones from my friends rifles. Was Anschutz bought out by another company cuz this isn't the norm for them. Shot the same gun at a PRS event in Clarence creek a few weeks ago and it acted exactly as mine. Only two people out of approx. fourty were able to fire nine rounds without the affore mentioned problem. Apparently it must be a common problem or a rare coincidence that's pushing me towards massive lottery ticket purchases,NOT. Third the new Labradar that will not function even by others that know what their doing, can you say MAGNETOSPEED. On its way Thinking I may return to marbles or darts F--K me This Gets Frustrating.