These rifles would be cheap like SKSes, except they're not old surplus rifles that a government is trying to get rid of just to get the inventory off of their hands, they're brand new rifles specifically made for commercial sale. Besides, it's not like the fit and finish of the Norinco SKSes is exactly top-notch.
Aussie Enfields Now @ Marstar
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I seen them at The D.C.R.A.
I always wanted a enforcer clone .......this is pretty close . and the workmanship of all the rifles is beatiful......my only complaint is the trigger pull, they could have went with an isapore adjustable setup. (but you could probalby do that yourself)
I always wanted a enforcer clone .......this is pretty close . and the workmanship of all the rifles is beatiful......my only complaint is the trigger pull, they could have went with an isapore adjustable setup. (but you could probalby do that yourself)
Canton,
Thanks for sharing what you found on the other gunboard. It was good information. I was milling about the idea of a 7.62x39 rifle but did wonder about how extraction was with the steel surplus ammo. Seems that 7.62x39 steel case ammo causes extraction problems in nearly all bolt action guns out there. I don't recall reading anyone not having a problem with M43 surplus ammo in their bolt guns.
Thanks for sharing what you found on the other gunboard. It was good information. I was milling about the idea of a 7.62x39 rifle but did wonder about how extraction was with the steel surplus ammo. Seems that 7.62x39 steel case ammo causes extraction problems in nearly all bolt action guns out there. I don't recall reading anyone not having a problem with M43 surplus ammo in their bolt guns.
cantom said:
Thanks for digging up the info from that other gunboard - I'd read that whole discussion about country of origin quite a while ago but hadn't had the time to go dig out the thread - there's certainly some ambiguity there... BUT I think you've really hit the nail on the head for me - I'm less concerned about who's making them where and more concerned with the answers to the other questions you've asked re quality assurance and after sales support by the manufacturer (despite being absolutely confident based on previous experience that if there was any significant issue, the Canadian re-sellers would refund/replace as required, it's nice to have less severe alternatives if issues arise).
Kudos also for taking the appropriate 'tone' and providing the necessary context to make it clear that your questions are legitimate (i.e. your comments can't possibly be misinterpreted as an 'attack'...).
I'm really looking forward to reading an unbiased CGN 'first-hand' review based on something from the recent Canadian supply...
/gc
Although I care only about HOW good the rifle is made, not WHERE, and rather keen to get one for myself as Sport model fits 100% what I want to see in my field bolt action rifle, IMHo this confusion about "true origin" does not work towards building AIA's image on Canadian market. Hope AIA's folks will clarify it promptly.
My last f i n d i n g s:
h t t p s://s t o r e.bluebookinc.com/download/Model.aspx?product=GUN&id=171
h t t p s :// s t o r e.bluebookinc.com/download/Category.aspx?product=GUN&id=121
How credible is that?
My last f i n d i n g s:
h t t p s://s t o r e.bluebookinc.com/download/Model.aspx?product=GUN&id=171
h t t p s :// s t o r e.bluebookinc.com/download/Category.aspx?product=GUN&id=121
How credible is that?
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Good question V1 and I can't tell ya, my advice talk to marstar and if he doesn't know, maybe you can catch him at a show and compare the two.
The actual reciever of these rifles are alot thicker than the 303 models they look like lee enfields but. their not.
The actual reciever of these rifles are alot thicker than the 303 models they look like lee enfields but. their not.
V1 said:
I agree, my main interest lies in how good they are too...they are good looking rifles...I took my Long Branch .303 out to the gun club and shot it on the weekend...
Anyone know how much 7.62mm/.308 surplus ammo is vs .303?
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are you talking cost or performance?
shortandlong said:
Cost per round...
BTW...
Hi Tom,
AIA is the Australian company that designed the rifle. Lithgow had no part in the design of the rifle. The rifles are made in Vietnam by the state's factory (the same factory that produces their military rifles). All proof testing is done by this factory. The rifles are very well made and finished.
As to whether it is worth the money this depends on what you want the rifle for. If you are a collector, no. If you are looking for a military style rifle for shooting; the ease of obtaining good quality cheap .308, the ability to mount a scope inexpensively make the No.4 Mk.IV a good option.
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From: Tom and Thanh
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: re AIA M10 rifles
Hi, I'm in Canada. The AIA M10 .308 rifles are just being imported here for
the first time now.
http://www.lawranceordnance.com/new/rifle-m10.html
We are curious about their provenance. We hear Australia, we hear Vietnam.
I've heard that AIA is just one guy in Brisbane and there is nothing else in
Australia. They were possibly first developed at Lithgow but subsequently
moved offshore to Vietnam.
Who proof tests them and ensures their safety and quality? Specifically, is
it a plant in Vietnam that does everything?
How does the quality compare to the original military surplus rifles?
They are not cheap guns. Is one of them worth the extra money when you can
buy for example a collector grade Enfield cheaper?
Sincerely,
Tom
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cantom,
Thanks for posting that email. No questions on the rifle's origins now, eh?
Provided the quality is there, I'd rather buy one of these than a Savage or other bolt gun in .308. I'm a sucker for the style, and with the accessory package the price is not out of line.
Thanks for posting that email. No questions on the rifle's origins now, eh?
Provided the quality is there, I'd rather buy one of these than a Savage or other bolt gun in .308. I'm a sucker for the style, and with the accessory package the price is not out of line.
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I got hands on with the M-10's and the No4 Mk 4's at the DCRA NSCC.
I was extremely impressed with the Mk4, the deep parkerized finish seemed REAL nice to me, I liked the way it was built, the fit and finish were excellent.
The M-10's I think would look nicer with a parkerized finish I think, but were very nice too.
Note, the scope mounts for the M-10's and the No 4 were different.
NS
I was extremely impressed with the Mk4, the deep parkerized finish seemed REAL nice to me, I liked the way it was built, the fit and finish were excellent.
The M-10's I think would look nicer with a parkerized finish I think, but were very nice too.
Note, the scope mounts for the M-10's and the No 4 were different.
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So what's your position on them in terms of shootability, NS? Worth the $800 and change to pick up a Mk4?
Stevo said:cantom,
Thanks for posting that email. No questions on the rifle's origins now, eh?
Provided the quality is there, I'd rather buy one of these than a Savage or other bolt gun in .308. I'm a sucker for the style, and with the accessory package the price is not out of line.
Hey, at least we know it's a real gun factory that's making them, that is a relief. They sound like a pretty nice rifle...one site I found said they are very accurate, like sub MOA I think it was...
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Shootability?
Well, I was told that every rifle is factory tested to shoot within a 75mm circle prior to leaving the factory.
The Enfields had to shoot inside a 75mmx100mm box, so they shoot better than an Enfield will. Those that shoot REALLY well are convereted over to the L-42-ish finish.
If I had $800 to spare, I'd probably grab one.
NS
Well, I was told that every rifle is factory tested to shoot within a 75mm circle prior to leaving the factory.
The Enfields had to shoot inside a 75mmx100mm box, so they shoot better than an Enfield will. Those that shoot REALLY well are convereted over to the L-42-ish finish.
If I had $800 to spare, I'd probably grab one.
NS
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