Authorization to carry (Alberta or BC)

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Hairy Krisna

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I conducted a search and could not find any threads with the above noted information I am interested in.

Has anyone on here successfully been able to get a ATC without having a trap line, being a guide or working primarily in remote wilderness locations?

I have received my application and I don't want to waste the $40 if there is no hope in hell.

Hairy
 
Are you a high profile person with a genuine threat to your safety? A criminal informant plenty of people want to seek revenge on? If not, then don't waste your $40.

What is your reason for getting an ATC?
 
I've been asking the same questions. From what I hear its dam near impossible to get one unless your job is in the woods all day every day. And then it's up to the strict powers that be.
 
My primary use for it would be for a secondary defence option should I run into a wild boar at close range while hunting them in dense brush. That and spending lots of my down time in the woods. I am a soon to be retired LEO,..which probably won't matter,..but was wondering if anyone here was able to obtain one.
 
Hairy Krisna said:
My primary use for it would be for a secondary defence option should I run into a wild boar at close range while hunting them in dense brush. That and spending lots of my down time in the woods. I am a soon to be retired LEO,..which probably won't matter,..but was wondering if anyone here was able to obtain one.
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Boar or bear?

The CFOs don't issue them unless you are working in the bush. It's bullschit but I guess they can't tell a worker they can't be safe but they can tell a recreational outdoorsman to stay home.

You are actually in a unique position to push this issue for all of us if you choose. Apply for the ATT right now, while you are still a cop. Get refused. Then make the argument that you carry a gun everyday in public, why is it risky for you to have one in the bush? Take them to court if you want to start a cause.
 
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Boar or bear?

The CFOs don't issue them unless you are working in the bush. It's bullschit but I guess they can't tell a worker they can't be safe but they can tell a recreational outdoorsman to stay home.

You are actually in a unique position to push this issue for all of us if you choose. Apply for the ATT right now, while you are still a cop. Get refused. Then make the argument that you carry a gun everyday in public, why is it risky for you to have one in the bush? Take them to court if you want to start a cause.
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Please do. I will throw a few bucks towards your legal fees.
 
Hairy Krisna said:
My primary use for it would be for a secondary defence option should I run into a wild boar at close range while hunting them in dense brush. That and spending lots of my down time in the woods. I am a soon to be retired LEO,..which probably won't matter,..but was wondering if anyone here was able to obtain one.
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Please apply, your situation would make a great case for the rest of us. But yes you will need to get a lawyer involved, which means cash, maybe the nfa could start a legal fund for you, I would gladly donate a couple hundreds to it.
 
I've often wondered about this as I heard from a few different people that if you get a prospectors license you can carry in the wilderness.

From Cariboo Gold Miners Association Thread one guy posted the following:

you have to pass a proficiency test with the firearm you'll be carrying. second you have to write a letter stating why you have to use a sidearm instead of a long gun ''example'' backpacking deep into remote areas for prospecting,and where there weight of a long gun becomes an issue due to long range bush travel on foot, third send all copys above with your ''application for an authorization to carry restricted firearms and prohibited handguns'' You can get a 1 year, or a 2 year permit. when your permit expires you have to do the above all over again. you cant just go online an stake a claim in the middle of nowhere and say your going there, you have to prove what you say. The smallest gun you can use is a 44 mag.

From Firearmstraining.ca:

Certain individuals who need restricted firearms for protection against predators in the wilderness (eg. trappers, prospectors), or for survival (eg. bush pilots), can obtain such a permit through the CFC, after completing a special wilderness training course.
While self-defence is a legal purpose, it is virtually impossible for an average citizen to get a permit to carry a concealed firearm for self-protection.

As per the OP, confirmation of the above would be interesting if any cgn'er has personal experience with this?
 
You won't get a wilderness carry permit for "a secondary defence option" while hunting anything. You have a rifle for one and you will never be fast enough, if Porky, Yogi or Cindy come for you. Any and all of 'em will be on you before you'll know it.
Being 'a soon to be retired LEO' makes no difference. And a lawyer will just cost you a huge pile of money for the same result.
 
Kinda of ironic to think that a LEO is suddenly brought up short by the same thing that bites the rest of us. Now that he wants to carry in the bush as a civilian, not a chance - even though we'd all sure like to do that. Before you retire, sir, convince your co-LEO's to to be more open to what the rest of us law abiding citizens would really like to have the right to do.
 
^ Hairy Krisna has been a vocal supporter of our cause, I believe he spoke up quite loudly when the whole reclassification fiasco came to light.
It is certainly ironic, but don't think for a second he isn't a valued member of our community.
 
Aren't police officers supposed to always be on duty even when not on the clock? By that logic it would make sense to issue the officer an ATC
 
As much as I'd like to fight for my rights to carry a handgun in the bush, a shotgun is more effective

That said if we are gonna flood with ATC's, I'll apply!
 
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