Autos VS Revolvers

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Everytime I shoot the Autos (Beretta 92FS/Browning 1935HP) and the S&W 686(6"bbl with .38spl) I always get better results in terms of accuracy with the revolver! No matter how hard I try to focus....the revolver always wins.

Is it just me or are there other's who get the same results? What's up?
 
I agree with that, I shoot my 686 better than my CZ, I think it is becasue semi auto has more muzzle jump and twist than revolver if you are not able to contral the grip hand.

Trigun
 
There are a few reasons why you'd be seeing better accuracy--your revolver would have a longer sight radius, better sight picture, and a lighter tigger pull (if you're shooting singl action). The 686 would also probably have better inherent accuracy than most centrefire semi-autos as well. Most folks I know (me included) can shoot a 6 inch revolver better than service-type semis.
 
same here…

Revolvers (esp. in Canada) usually have a longer barrel and sight radius than most autos (since cylinder doesn't count as barrel) . Also it’s important to mention that front sight on a revolver is attached to a barrel not the slide which does make a difference.
 
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I started out on revolvers and eventually tried on semi-autos. It's either/or for me. Depends on how much you shoot, what & when...
 
Most semi-autos shoot rings around a good revolver. :)

If you were to compare shooting the 686 to shooting an accurate semi-auto then things it may be closer. Are you also shooting a comparable load? What bullet weight and muzzle velocity?

Do some dry firing tests with both types of guns. Odds are that with the revolver you are not pulling the gun left or right as you probably are with the semi-auto.

Generally I shoot better with a revolver than a semi-auto.
 
johNTO said:
Everytime I shoot the Autos (Beretta 92FS/Browning 1935HP) and the S&W 686(6"bbl with .38spl) I always get better results in terms of accuracy with the revolver! No matter how hard I try to focus....the revolver always wins.

Is it just me or are there other's who get the same results? What's up?
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Chances are that your 686 has a much better single action trigger than either Beretta or Browning. A good trigger is absolutely vital for bullseye shooting. As far as revolvers being inherently more accurate than autos, that's just a myth. The vast majority of NRA Bullseye competitors use semi-automatics, even though the rules allow revolvers.
 
Trigger pull, longer sight radius, sight on barrel vs. slide notwithstanding (all good arguments btw) don't over look that the 686 may just fit you better. The grips on revolvers tend to be smaller and thinner than on comparable autos of the same size.

Of the 7 major pistol shooting fundementals, (grip, stance, sighting, trigger control, breath control, follow through and tempo/rythm) it starts with the grip.
 
NAA said:
Depends on how much you shoot, what & when...
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+1 When I shot only my 686 (minimum 100 rounds) weekly, I found myself shooting it pretty well in DA. As my 'collection' grew, I shot it less and whenever I went back to it, it took about 30-50 rounds for me to 'settle back into the gun'. The same goes for my semi's. I can shoot either semi or revolver well enough but if I want to be 'really good' with a particular gun then I'd have to shoot it almost exclusively for a while. Just my experience...YMMV
 
Some very interesting and useful feedback.....

My groupings on the semi-autos seem to be "pushing" to the left and low(I'm right handed) at 15 yrds.
Same stance and cadence is used for all HG's.

The grips on the 92FS are factory, Hogue with finger grooves on the HP, and Pachmayr decelerator on the 686. Ammo is factory loads.

Wondering what my results will be when the S&W performance center 627 is delivered:)
 
The fixed barrel on a revolver makes it more accurate than an out of the box semi-auto. A tuned 1911 is a different story.
 
johNTO said:
Some very interesting and useful feedback.....

My groupings on the semi-autos seem to be "pushing" to the left and low(I'm right handed) at 15 yrds.
Same stance and cadence is used for all HG's.

The grips on the 92FS are factory, Hogue with finger grooves on the HP, and Pachmayr decelerator on the 686. Ammo is factory loads.

Wondering what my results will be when the S&W performance center 627 is delivered:)
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Flinch!

Get some snap caps and try some dry firing. Then when you think you have control again then go to the range with a number of mags. Load the snap caps in with the live rounds in a random pattern with the top round live. Not much surprise on the first round. You don't want to know if the shot is going to be live or not. If it is not a live round you will see what your control is like when the round does not go off.

I like revolver for this exersize. I load four rounds in a random pattern. Spin the cylinder before I close it without looking.

One guy I know bought a 1911 as his first gun. He actually shot it very well at first. This guy is an electrician who pulls wire all day. BIG arms. He had the strength to hold that gun up all day if he had to. A few weeks later I see he is shooting low and to the left. I go over to talk to him. He tells me he has to move the sights. No you don't I say. I told him he developed a flinch. Told him to line up for a shot and shoot like he normally would. You would think he was aiming for the floor based on how far the muzzle went down. (ok I exaggerate) I had him do some dry firing. Then when he seemed to have better control I had him load five rounds and shoot at the target. Funny thing! The holes moved back into the black!

I've been there myself. Now my and the above experience is based on shooting with one hand. I don't know how much of an effect a flinch has with two hands but I expect there would be some effect.
 
bisonhd said:
When guy's say they're more accurate with revolver's; are they refering to shooting them double action or single only?
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I don't shoot single action, but still shoot better than shoot a semi:) I believe there are many factors add together make revolver shoot easier. With the semi, I think the accuracy was greatly affected when the slide cycle and #### the hummer. But I also have some member in our club shoot semi better than my revolver. It just a matter of how hard that we train ourself.

Trigun
 
Rudy H said:
Most semi-autos shoot rings around a good revolver. :)

If you were to compare shooting the 686 to shooting an accurate semi-auto then things it may be closer. Are you also shooting a comparable load? What bullet weight and muzzle velocity?

Do some dry firing tests with both types of guns. Odds are that with the revolver you are not pulling the gun left or right as you probably are with the semi-auto.

Generally I shoot better with a revolver than a semi-auto.
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You must be bloody joking mate.

The only way an auto would shoot as well as a box stock 686 is if it is a custom job. I doubt that a box stock auto would shoot as well.
 
RePete said:
You must be bloody joking mate.

The only way an auto would shoot as well as a box stock 686 is if it is a custom job. I doubt that a box stock auto would shoot as well.
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I think Rudy was trying to be clever. "Shooting rings around a good revolver" means getting wider groups, I suspect.
 
bisonhd said:
When guy's say they're more accurate with revolver's; are they refering to shooting them double action or single only?
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Personally, I prefer shooting revolvers in dbl action. I find the trigger too
sensitive when the revolver is cocked for single action.

Some members mentioned that the action of the slide racking on the semi-autos may be the cause for my accuracy issues. I'm thinking this combined with using the wrong part of the pad on my trigger finger might be my problem.

Either way, can't complain 'cause it gives me an excuse to shoot more;)
 
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