Average failures to fire in surplus ammo?

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My VZ58 has been my first 7.62x39 rifle and my first experience with surplus ammo.

I picked up a crate of PRC 7.62x39 and I'm getting 1-2 failures to fire every range trip.

In 400 rounds I've had 6+ failures to fire. All had a solid primer strike. I even chambered them and fired again.

What is considered an acceptable failure with regards to surplus ammo?

I may be picky ( read I am picky ) but I am looking for ammo that fires every time it's struck.

Is there a particular 7.62x39 surplus ammo that is consistently reliable?

This ammo is for punching paper but also for long term storage. I want to know that what I am slowly putting away will go bang if/when I need it to.

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G.Mitchell said:
My VZ58 has been my first 7.62x39 rifle and my first experience with surplus ammo.

I picked up a crate of PRC 7.62x39 and I'm getting 1-2 failures to fire every range trip.

In 400 rounds I've had 6+ failures to fire. All had a solid primer strike. I even chambered them and fired again.

What is considered an acceptable failure with regards to surplus ammo?

I may be picky ( read I am picky ) but I am looking for ammo that fires every time it's struck.

Is there a particular 7.62x39 surplus ammo that is consistently reliable?

This ammo is for punching paper but also for long term storage. I want to know that what I am slowly putting away will go bang if/when I need it to.

Feedback?
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That's not acceptable to me. I have never had a ftf with any x39 ammo, but I have never used PRC stuff.( everything but ) Don't buy any more :)
 
I've run well over 1500 rounds of Chinese surplus and never had a issue with either
my Russian or Chinese SKS same deal with the Czech ammo which I've put a lot
more of through the guns.

For long term storage you can buy brand new ammo for around $150 per 500 rounds
or that Czech stuff that Canada Ammo had, it was a fairly recent production date.
 
I never had even 1 fail to fire, wit Czech, Chinese or Russian 7.62x39 surplus, problem might be the firming pin
 
i think i might have had 1 in the last 3-1440 cases,maybe it was my buddies case of 1440, he had the green casings
 
I have plenty of the same ammo likely from the same store through my cz858 and vz58 without issues. You may have firing pin issue or a bad batch of ammo? Try a box of mfs and see how that goes
 
I think my 7.62x39 is Romanian, I've not had a round yet fail to fire in my sks and I'm about 1000 rounds into the 1400 round case. Same with my Tokarev in 7.62x25, I've have close to 800 rounds through it.
 
How long term is long term to you? There's some Bulgarian and Chinese ammo floating around now that comes in the spam cans. Can't beat that for storing away long term.
 
Buy a couple boxes of a different ammo and try it out. Multiple types would be even better. Then you can determine whether it's the ammo or the gun. I'm halfway through a case of Czech surplus with only one FTF in my SKS. It seemed to have an extremely hard primer, as it didn't dimple as deeply as the ones before or since. I even went so far as to #### the handle and try it again (after a good long wait for the bang), no dice.
 
I haven't had a ftf in either the 7.62x39 or 223, chinese for the 223 and eastern europe for the 7.62. Given time it will happen as i have had sporting ammo made in US the has ftf, mostly rimefire, even had the odd reload not fire.
 
I have gone through just over seven cases of Czech and a couple cases of Chinese and otherwise out of a few different rifles and have yet to have a FTF or FTE.
 
i pretty much only ever used MFS and never had a failure
i used some norinco stuff last range trip someone gave me and one round was missing the primer
cheers
 
never had a FTF in my sks and vz58 , i have shoot some old Russian surplus from 1951 and 1958 and they where dirty but they all do bang ! same for the 1969 Romanian
 
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