B and T APC9 PRO

mozambique technique said:
As a B&T layman, what's the issue with the front takedown pin on these? Someone mentioned it has to be fixed to be importable.
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From the importer

"All APC rifles have a permanent front pivot pin. This is a safety feature that was built into the rifles by B&T to prevent any chance of compatibility between the semi-auto APC rifles and their prohibited full-auto versions. This feature aided in the non-restricted status of the APC rifles granted by the RCMP."
 
MitchCDN said:
From the importer

"All APC rifles have a permanent front pivot pin. This is a safety feature that was built into the rifles by B&T to prevent any chance of compatibility between the semi-auto APC rifles and their prohibited full-auto versions. This feature aided in the non-restricted status of the APC rifles granted by the RCMP."
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Because we have so many full auto BT lowers here in Canada lol. Their ideology is wack.
 
Trapanese said:
Because we have so many full auto BT lowers here in Canada lol. Their ideology is wack.
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It is as easy as deciding to aquire a full auto. They can't stop anyone from doing anything, all they can do is make suggestions and threats and dole out punishments... like the elementary school lunch lady.
 
I'm pretty sure we can. We will advise once the FRT is released.


mildot said:
I see that you have this listed on your webstie currently, once an FRT# is assigned? will you be able to offer it in a "turn key" configuration with the Glock or SIG lower and the collapsible stock? No ETA is necessary. Thanks
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What is so great about these vs. what we already have available here today in Canada from official B&T dustrubutor?

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shurick said:
What is so great about these vs. what we already have available here today in Canada from official B&T dustrubutor?

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Not saying its better but here are the changes I am aware of

Changeable pistol grip
Better Bolt Release
Non Reciprocating Dual Sided Charging Handle

The first two changes are already implemented on some of the APC9 models available as they have the pro lower. The last change is the one most people want and only available with the pro upper.
 
MitchCDN said:
Not saying its better but here are the changes I am aware of

Changeable pistol grip
Better Bolt Release
Non Reciprocating Dual Sided Charging Handle to

The first two changes are already implemented on some of the APC9 models available as they have the pro lower. The last change is the one most people want and only available with the pro upper.
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Hi MitchCDN,

just wanted to add something, I am one of those that is really not interested in this short version...at all. At this barrel length, I might as well stick with my Glock 17 honestly. I love the current 7 or so inch barrel length of the APC9 / GHM9. The non reciprocating handle, that’s also not something I’m interested in, although I fully understand people who do. I like the idea of having something to push the bolt in case a round needs a little push....that’s just me.
What I want though, is the GLOCK lower !!! The current Bt mags ? No a big fan to say the least, but I’ll wait to see how they do in the long term. Plus that 5 rounds limit drives me nuts. I had the GHM9 with the glock lower, and I loved that feature..those 24 rds Factory Glock mags are so awesome. I’m just hoping that once the APC9 with the Glock lower is approved, those of us who have the standard APC9 with the OEM mags, will be able to convert to the glock lower. It would have been a straight forward move without the front pin being permanently fixed. I’m still glad we could get those despite the front pin feature. Cheers
 
vickers vanguard said:
Hi MitchCDN,

just wanted to add something, I am one of those that is really not interested in this short version...at all. At this barrel length, I might as well stick with my Glock 17 honestly. I love the current 7 or so inch barrel length of the APC9 / GHM9. The non reciprocating handle, that’s also not something I’m interested in, although I fully understand people who do. I like the idea of having something to push the bolt in case a round needs a little push....that’s just me.
What I want though, is the GLOCK lower !!! The current Bt mags ? No a big fan to say the least, but I’ll wait to see how they do in the long term. Plus that 5 rounds limit drives me nuts. I had the GHM9 with the glock lower, and I loved that feature..those 24 rds Factory Glock mags are so awesome. I’m just hoping that once the APC9 with the Glock lower is approved, those of us who have the standard APC9 with the OEM mags, will be able to convert to the glock lower. It would have been a straight forward move without the front pin being permanently fixed. I’m still glad we could get those despite the front pin feature. Cheers
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You bring up excellent points! I agree with you :)
 
Yep I agree if it has a 4.5 or 5.5 inch barrel why not just use a handgun. But to each is own and this is the op's post.
 
mildot is asking for the non permanently fixed lower.

that is something we all want to have but unfortunately for these to come into the country wolverine had to resubmit a new version to satisfy the rcmp demands, easily and readily convertible to auto

the apc9 USA versions all have non permenant lowers and I doubt they would get a restricted status once they come in. If they do somehow make it in due to a glitch or oversight, don't be surprised if they show up one day at your door to come confiscate them like they have done so many times in the past. T97 etc
 
So i guess the gestapo here are going back on the interpretation that only the lower qualifies as the firearm. Because there are a lot of clamshell receivered rifles and carbines which come apart and that are only semi auto because they have a semi auto lower. If by easily convertible they mean HAVING a full auto on hand to swap in, that's idiotic. If someone needed to and can somehow sneak a full auto lower into the country, because that would be illegal for import on it's own why wouldn't they just sneak a whole god damn gun in?
 
This is the only B&T APC9K PRO 9mm we currently have in stock at the moment...


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We have a bunch of B&T, APC9 PRO, Semi-automatic, 9MM, 7" Barrel, Polymer Frame, Black Finish, 33Rd, 1 Magazine, Glock Magazine Compatible currently in transit to our AZ store.


The IRUNGUNS Store

shurick said:
Is this available with Glock lower of is that the only configuration approved for import?
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IRUNGUNS said:
We have a bunch of B&T, APC9 PRO, Semi-automatic, 9MM, 7" Barrel, Polymer Frame, Black Finish, 33Rd, 1 Magazine, Glock Magazine Compatible currently in transit to our AZ store.


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Could we order one with the collapsible stock installed? Thanks, so the PRO with the Glock lower is G2G, Thanks
 
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