B&C on long-range shooting
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arcticcathonda
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Alberta
Hahahaha, yup!
If I am reading this article correctly the fine gentlemen at Boone & Crockett would prefer we all went back to hunting with spears and bow and arrow with flint broad heads as we walk through the woods naked and afraid! They really should not be judging anyone for their hunting method that is being done within the laws of the province or state they are hunting in!!!!
canadian hunter312
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Brant County
Maybe this will help some people realize that long range shooting is nothing more than target shooting with living targets and requires zero hunting related skill.
They're simply saying that long range shooting gives the shooter a huge and unfair advantage which is 100% true.
They're simply saying that long range shooting gives the shooter a huge and unfair advantage which is 100% true.
And a pile of grain for deer or donuts for bears don't? What about cougars with hounds?
At what exact range does hunting end and target practice begin? 50 yards? 100 yards? 200 yards? 300? 400?
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Maybe this will help some people realize that long range shooting is nothing more than target shooting with living targets and requires zero hunting related skill.
Technology is always advancing and improving, since I started hunting 40 years ago the compound bow has gained over 100 fps in speed, range finders are standard equipment for most hunters, GPS has replaced my map and compass and tree stands are hanging up all over the woods.This has been going on since we discovered that by attaching a rock to the end of a stick made for a more effective club!
They're simply saying that long range shooting gives the shooter a huge and unfair advantage which is 100% true.
Technology is always advancing and improving, in the 40 years since I started hunting compound bows have gained over 150 FPS, laser range finders are standard equipment for most hunters, the GPS has replaced the map and compass and tree stands are all over the woods. This all started when man discovered that by attaching a rock to a stick made for a more effective club!!!
Makes sense to me and am glad they took this stance. If your a hunter then get closer to your prey, if the closest yoj can get to a WT deer is 800 yards then do you really feel your name should be in a book remembering hunters? Go to SCI, they will take anything, canned hunts for pets and long range.
please explain how becoming a good marksmen is unfair to the animal.
Animals don't just appear at 1000yds in front of a guy sitting on a bench with rifle ready, it actually uses many more hunting talents than your average hunter uses in a season or has.
I bow and rifle hunt as well and have over 30 years of hunting experience so I know what skills are used and how much more you need to do/know for each type of hunting to make a humane kill to feed my family.
Lying in wait in a tree over a field or driving a truck around till you see one takes very little "hunting" skill compared to a long range hunt.
- Location
- Prince Albert, Sk
My take....
If we don't like you, we won't accept your entry.
If we don't like you, we won't accept your entry.
on their own website it states
http://www.boone-crockett.org/about/LRS.asp?area=about&ID=6B455080&se=1&te=1
In their "position statement" It also does not say that they will deny an entry and I suspect they cannot do so because even they cannot draw that line given it is still hunting.
Truthfully the entire press release is nothing but flowery hyperbole with no clear direction as to their position. There is no rule to enforce here because there are no guidelines. The whole animal awareness is a total non starter either. I've seen animals totally blow out of the country at a mile when the wind was wrong or if a person showed themselves and I've seen other animals blissfully unaware of my presence at a scant few yards. The truth is, they can't put hard numbers to any of this hyperbole so they can't create a rule. I agree with much of what they say regarding not using animals as target practice and attempting to get closer but who is to judge when close bis close enough other than the person with the rifle. At least they've backed down considerably from their high-horse ethics lecture of a few years ago and from their posts on FB this week I'd say they are even backing down more. At the end of the day B&C is a club....nothing more....they don't dictate ethics for hunters....just their club members that want to submit a head for a prize.
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
You really don't know what you're talking about, do you? Maybe you should spend some time with people that take long range hunting seriously before you tar an entire group with your ignorant opinion.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
B&C is a private organisation, and like it or not just like CGN makes its own decisions. Most private clubs, including one or two I belong to, have some questionable stances. Personally, I'd like to see them to accept any legal method without prejudice. This said, I can see what they are trying to do, and that is remain a golden days organisation, we're merely seeing a very conservative stance from them and resistance to change.
My main problem with their stance here is it is so ambiguous. They likely wouldn't have a problem with my longest iron sighted double rifle shot, because it's just under 200 yards. Truth be told, I have an easier and more reliable time making a 500 yard shot with my scoped mountain rifle, and it seems they would be against the latter because it's more modern and uses a turreted scope. I've never shot or shot at anything bigger than wolves past 300, but it's just personal choice, I enjoy close and iron sights. Some like a different flavour and I've mellowed to the point if they're doing it well, and legally, what right to opinion do I have?
My main problem with their stance here is it is so ambiguous. They likely wouldn't have a problem with my longest iron sighted double rifle shot, because it's just under 200 yards. Truth be told, I have an easier and more reliable time making a 500 yard shot with my scoped mountain rifle, and it seems they would be against the latter because it's more modern and uses a turreted scope. I've never shot or shot at anything bigger than wolves past 300, but it's just personal choice, I enjoy close and iron sights. Some like a different flavour and I've mellowed to the point if they're doing it well, and legally, what right to opinion do I have?
