Back to basics

Klunk

R.I.P
EE Expired
Rating - 100%
163   0   0
Location
Niagara region
Hey,

Always found BP revolvers kinda nifty

Now I have one

How does it work?...what do I need (basically) to take er out and squeeze a few off?

Its a CVA 1851 Remington Army in .44 cal

49f0c9ed.jpg
 
Well, you need some FFFG powder, some grease (.criscoe, wonder lube or other stuff to grease the top of the balls after you haeve seated them, and a powder measure.
If your caliber is true .44, you will need some round ball in the are of .445 or a little bigger, so you can cutt a ring of lead when you seat thee ball in the cylinder.
A loading manual for BP pistols will give you the info you need for charges.
Have fun!!
Cat
 
The revo actually needs .454" round ball cast from PURE LEAD. Not alloyed lead.

FFFg or equivalent. You also need a powder flask with a .44 cal measuring spout. If you don;t have a revolver size nipple wrench, get one.

You cna buy fancy grease if you want. I just use Crisco - it's way cheaper and works.

Use No.10 caps, or replace the nipples with Treso nipples (recommended!) and use No.11 caps.

Don;t be lazy about cleaning. With my colt clones, I detail strip and wash everything in hot soapy water. I dry on a cookie sheet in the oven at the lowest setting for 15 minutes and then slather with crisco while still hot and reassemble. Never had rust yet ;)
 
Crisco?....like the stuff ya cook with?

I notice everyone recomends the finer grind of powder...how come?

Is fg or ffg bad?...

Do I really require a powder flask or is there some other way to measure the loads?

I dont know what size the nipples are...will probably just take the gun along next time I trip into the big city

Crisco?
 
Klunk.

Talk to me after the shoot on Saturday. Between Huntsman and I, we have pretty most of the required stuff needed for making smoke the old school way.

The smaller the cal., the finer (the "F" factor i.e FFFG as opposed to FFG) the powder grain.

Criso does make a great bullet lubricant.

Baking and Basting is for poutry, not revolvers. Once you clean it, give'r a wipe with CLP.

There is a minimum amount of required of equipment needed, most of which you can make (granted, it won't be shiny or gucci). For everything else, there's Mastercard.
 
Last edited:
Klunk said:
Crisco?....like the stuff ya cook with?

I notice everyone recomends the finer grind of powder...how come?

Is fg or ffg bad?...

Do I really require a powder flask or is there some other way to measure the loads?

I dont know what size the nipples are...will probably just take the gun along next time I trip into the big city

Crisco?

Yes, the stuff you cook with :) The no-name stuff is even better b/c it's cheaper ;)

fg and ffg are too coarse for consistent ignition in the small revolver chambers. Use fffg. Yes, you need a flask so you don't blow yourself up. They are made of brass or copper and lead soldered together so that they are no static attractive (ie, no steel!). Having one with a proper measure spout is just convenient. Powder horns will also work, but are more "apropos" for long rifles than for revolvers. You can use a separate powder measure too if you want - but either way, you need to measure your charges so you are consistent for accuracy and so you don't overload and blow yourself up.

For nipples, go to the thunder ridge website and look at their sizing chart.
http : // thunder-ridge-muzzleloading.com/nip_x_ref.htm
 
That pistol you have Klunk,drop it off at the shop and give it an
"in-inspection" for ya,
You probably won't like the slowness of re-loading,as well the messy cleanup during and after use,not to mention the complete & utter inaccuracy of such type of a revolver.Let alone pain in the a$$ these pistols are for parts.
I know of a certain Cpl who's a weapons tech that can relieve of your burden!
 
Huntsman said:
That pistol you have Klunk,drop it off at the shop and give it an
"in-inspection" for ya,
You probably won't like the slowness of re-loading,as well the messy cleanup during and after use,not to mention the complete & utter inaccuracy of such type of a revolver.Let alone pain in the a$$ these pistols are for parts.
I know of a certain Cpl who's a weapons tech that can relieve of your burden!

What a sacrifice Huntsman. You should get the Order of Canada for your selfless act.
 
OK...I dont wanna blow up...

How is the charge measured?...in grains like a real gun or by volume?

DO I need a scale if I want to get perfect loads?

is there a way to measure the nipples (heheh...I said nipples) to determine the cap size?
 
Klunk said:
OK...I dont wanna blow up...

How is the charge measured?...in grains like a real gun or by volume?

DO I need a scale if I want to get perfect loads?

is there a way to measure the nipples (heheh...I said nipples) to determine the cap size?

charges are measured by volume.I use a blackpowder measure,set it to the desired charge,then weigh the charge on my scale and make every charge the same,I do this for both my guns(in-line & sidelock),this may seem time consuming for a pistol having 6 cylinders but it will work.I have a book at home called "The Black Powder Hangun" By Sam Fadala.
You can borrow it if you wish.
Cheers,
 
Yep, done by volume. If adventurous (I'm not) you can measure with the flask spout and pour right into the chambers. I measure rough with the flask, pour into a BP powder measure and then into the cylinders. Sounds like alot, but it's really very fast. You don't need a scale. BP isn't quite as volume sensitive as smokeless is.

For nipple size, your best bet is to just buy a few sizes & makes and try them. A tin of caps is only like 3 or 4 dollars. Or, just order the Treso nipples that you really ought to use and buy either Remington No.10 or cci No.11 caps.
 
Back
Top Bottom