Back-Yard Hand Guns?

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It's been about 4 years since doing my restricted course and I'm a little rusty on the regs. I'm finally getting around to getting a hand gun and trying to polish up on things - And I can't find the regs that state that I can't shoot a hand gun in my back yard... (15 acres of bush going uphill).

Am I miss-remembering my course? Can I actually discharge (safely) a restricted weapon off of an approved CFO shooting range? What about transporting to a family farm (with ATT) and discharging it there?

If anyone knows of another post on this let me know... I searched but couldn't find one.

Thanks!
 
The short answer is no. Unless you go through the trouble of having it certified as "an approved range". The regs for all restricted firearms state that they may only be discharged at an approved range.
 
Read the relevant sections of the Firearm Act below. Your Restricted Firearms course instructor left out some very important information... you cannot legally be in possession of a restricted firearm unless you are IN your dwelling house, or other approved place (CFO certified shooting range).

Places where prohibited and restricted firearms may be possessed

17. Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of the registration certificate for which is an individual, may be possessed only at the dwelling-house of the individual, as recorded in the Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized by a chief firearms officer.
1995, c. 39, s. 17; 2003, c. 8, s. 15.
18. [Repealed, 2003, c. 8, s. 15]
Transporting and using prohibited firearms or restricted firearms

19. (1) An individual who holds a licence authorizing the individual to possess prohibited firearms or restricted firearms may be authorized to transport a particular prohibited firearm or restricted firearm between two or more specified places for any good and sufficient reason, including, without restricting the generality of the foregoing,
(a) for use in target practice, or a target shooting competition, under specified conditions or under the auspices of a shooting club or shooting range that is approved under section 29;
 
I think thats what our next babystep should be. Allow restricted and prohibited firearms to be legally discharged on crown land, and private land if not conflicting with local bylaws. Also eliminate the ATT's by including them with the Restricted statu on the PAL. Also Bump the rifle mag laws up to 10 rounds to start.

Would this have to go to parliament in the form of a bill?
 
LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1 said:
I think thats what our next babystep should be. Allow restricted and prohibited firearms to be legally discharged on crown land, and private land if not conflicting with local bylaws. Also eliminate the ATT's by including them with the Restricted statu on the PAL. Also Bump the rifle mag laws up to 10 rounds to start.

Would this have to go to parliament in the form of a bill?
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This would take a CPC majority. You are basically asking for the same as C-301 had, plus off-range restricted shooting. Remember the "machine guns in neighbourhoods" BS from 301? This would be a lot worse. The off-range restricted shooting basically eliminates the whole restricted category, since the range only status is really the only difference between non-restricted and restricted.

And I would simply remove ALL mag capacity restrictions, no point in stopping at 10 for non-restricted centerfire semi's.

Mark
 
Steyr101 said:
Read the relevant sections of the Firearm Act below. Your Restricted Firearms course instructor left out some very important information... you cannot legally be in possession of a restricted firearm unless you are IN your dwelling house, or other approved place (CFO certified shooting range).

Places where prohibited and restricted firearms may be possessed

17. Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of the registration certificate for which is an individual, may be possessed only at the dwelling-house of the individual, as recorded in the Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized by a chief firearms officer.
1995, c. 39, s. 17; 2003, c. 8, s. 15.
18. [Repealed, 2003, c. 8, s. 15]
Transporting and using prohibited firearms or restricted firearms

19. (1) An individual who holds a licence authorizing the individual to possess prohibited firearms or restricted firearms may be authorized to transport a particular prohibited firearm or restricted firearm between two or more specified places for any good and sufficient reason, including, without restricting the generality of the foregoing,
(a) for use in target practice, or a target shooting competition, under specified conditions or under the auspices of a shooting club or shooting range that is approved under section 29;
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I don't think this is merely an issue of possession. Do you not also possess the firearm legally while you transport it to the authorized place under the ATT?

You'd need more than the above to prohibit firing off some shots while I walk from my home to the car before I drive to the range. Not saying there isn't more to be said on the subject, but the above alone doesn't appear to condemn it.
 
mmattockx said:
This would take a CPC majority. You are basically asking for the same as C-301 had, plus off-range restricted shooting. Remember the "machine guns in neighbourhoods" BS from 301? This would be a lot worse. The off-range restricted shooting basically eliminates the whole restricted category, since the range only status is really the only difference between non-restricted and restricted.

And I would simply remove ALL mag capacity restrictions, no point in stopping at 10 for non-restricted centerfire semi's.

Mark
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I want regular mags as much as the next person, but I can't see them suddenly removing the mag restrictions at once. I think if we upped the cap five rounds, waited, showed the public that crime was unaffected, then reapeated a few more times we could have at least 20 round mags in ten years or so.

It will be slow, but so was our decent into what we have now. it took 30 or so years to get where we are today, I doubt we will reverse all of it, but in time we can at least backtrack some of the way.
 
true... most cities have a bylaw against it. but he said he has a good chunk of land to shoot on....so I'm assuming it's out in the country.
 
buy an antique, you can shoot those where it is legal to shoot nonrestricteds.

or

set up a berm, some fencing, and signage in your back yard and get your own range certified and you are ready to go!
 
I dont have a backyard that would allow the thought to even pass through my head, but Im sure there are people that DO do it although it is most definitely illegal.
 
You can shoot all the high powered rifles you have if your town regs allow that,but not hand guns with an effective range of 50 yards if your lucky.Another senseless regulation made to curtail the shooting sport.
 
mmattockx said:
This would take a CPC majority. You are basically asking for the same as C-301 had, plus off-range restricted shooting. Remember the "machine guns in neighbourhoods" BS from 301? This would be a lot worse. The off-range restricted shooting basically eliminates the whole restricted category, since the range only status is really the only difference between non-restricted and restricted.

And I would simply remove ALL mag capacity restrictions, no point in stopping at 10 for non-restricted centerfire semi's.

Mark
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please let me know when you plan to take harpers position :D you have my vote!
 
So would discharging a handgun out the window of your dwelling when there are no local firearm discharge prohibitions technically be legal, as you can poses in your house, you can shoot on the land, what stops you?
 
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