BACON 2nd. Model Navy info. needed

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G'day Gentlemen,

I have a Bacon 2nd. model Navy pistol, Civil War era with the cartridge retaining ring on the back of the cylinder. The ring is frozen to the cylinder and there is evidence of someone having used pliers to remove it. Before I get into making a tool and applying heat, does anyone know if the ring is a left or right hand thread ? The previous owner is deceased so no source of info there !

I can't get pictures on 'Nutz', but can send them by e-mail if anyone needs them.

Thanks,

Palerider.
 
Perhaps the ring was meant to pull off, straight to the rear. Just a pin or two to keep it aligned. I have a Remington with that setup. I have a 2nd model Bacon, but still in percussion. .31 cal I think. Is yours converted to .32 RF?
 
....thanks for the response. No, the ring is designed to screw on and off so as to retain the cartridges in the cylinder,. This , apparently, was to avoid infringing on a S&W patent. The gun is designed to shoot a .38 rim fire cartridge, of which a I have a box of 49.

Palerider
 
...yes, exactly. There is some confusion over the designation 1st and 2nd but, as I understand it, the ring was added to the 1st. model to avoid infringing on S&W's patent. Maybe it should more correctly be described as the 1st model Mk2 as were the Webley's etc.when revisions were made. What I need to know is the direction in which the ring screws on. It looks from the picture that it should be a fine thread, but LH or RH ?...need to find someone who has one !

And thanks for the info, this is a good group of 'nutz !
 
I don't know if it's a LH or RH thread but one thing i found works good on releasing the threads is to pre heat your oven to 200 degree Fahrenheit put some oil on the threaded area then shut off the oven, then put the part in your oven for about 20 minutes the heat will expand the metal and thin the oil allowing it to seep into the threads it works first try most of the time if not leave it for a hour or so to cool down then try it again.(it's from the book gun smithing guns of the old west)
 
...thanks Skinny, a good site. I have responded to their historian with the gun details and maybe ( I hope ) someone with know what direction thread is on the retaining ring.

Palerider
 
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