Badger Ordnance Dead Level

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So I'm just curious to know if anyone is using one or has used one? and what they thought of it? Pls don't "chime in " on the plumb line, I"m G2G with that, so thanks in advance buds.If frank over at the "Hide" is using it, it can't be all bad, LOL

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So if you are moving scopes around frequently, it has it's advantages. I"m always a bit OCD when comes to scope leveling, LOL.
 
Looks very interesting. I have tried several methods of trying to get my reticle perfectly level. I always 'feel' that it is slightly off, but I can not be sure if it is maybe just me. My base has a level on it and I try my best to get things level but I can never be sure that the top of my scope turret is actually level. I have tried using a plumb line but even then I wasn't completly sure.

I think this system would work well to eliminate one variable of ensuring the scope base is sitting perfectly level allowing you to focus purely on the twist of the scope for the reticle.
 
So one of the advantages to this system is that it doesn't use the turrets to level the scope. Most manufactures suggest that you use the bottom of the scope, with a deck of cards or feeler gauge? I think it's a better option than using the levels on the barrel, action,turrets etc, believe me I've tried them, LOL
 
I see the merit, but just seems excessive for what it is. IMHO. Rather than use the badger rail, I just use my rifle rail. I have a small bulls-eye level that sits on the rail. Once I get that leveled, add rings, add scope. Begin to snug rings and anti cant device and use a plumb line hanging form the fence for the final snug. So I guess, more simply I do have a Badger scope leveling device, it is just permanently attached to my rifle.

For the price of a small bulls-eye level (<3$) you can do the same thing at home. But hey, i'm all for buying goodies!~
 
My Spuhr has a system for leveling the scope with a notch on the bottom and this wedge thing that your insert and it runs flat against the bottom of the scope turret area. Seems to work pretty well.
 
ceriksson said:
My Spuhr has a system for leveling the scope with a notch on the bottom and this wedge thing that your insert and it runs flat against the bottom of the scope turret area. Seems to work pretty well.
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Ya I bought the "wedge" with my spuhr rings, however it doesn't work if you have the low spuhr rings that I have. All my scopes have 34mm tubes so there is no room to fit the wedge in between the scope & rail. It's probably better suited for the one piece mounts.
 
I think this tool could be very useful. I usually install my scope at the range with a plumb bob at 75 or 100 yards. With this I wouldn't have to go to the range to get it level and set up. But it might not be worth it unless your installing a lot of scopes. I think it will find it's market if the price is right.
 
Why have a level if its being squared up with the top of the rail as shown in the video anyway?... makes no sense.

If you level off the top of the rail to the bottom of the scope and it feels wrong when you're in shooting position, its probably the rifle that needs to be turned under it. Rotate the scope in the rings until it looks/feels right( a distant level line then makes sense), doesn't mater if the cross hairs are level with anything in relation to the rifle so long as when you're in position they're always at the same spot/level without having to fight it.
 
SND said:
Why have a level if its being squared up with the top of the rail as shown in the video anyway?... makes no sense.

If you level off the top of the rail to the bottom of the scope and it feels wrong when you're in shooting position, its probably the rifle that needs to be turned under it. Rotate the scope in the rings until it looks/feels right( a distant level line then makes sense), doesn't mater if the cross hairs are level with anything in relation to the rifle so long as when you're in position they're always at the same spot/level without having to fight it.
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There just has to be someone to start it off.
 
Am I missing something? What on earth did he do in the video?

Also by the looks of the posts in the thread is seems that most shooters are still under the impression that your scope needs to be level to your gun. It most definitely does not.


When I am mounting a scope I will put a bi-pod on the gun and with a rear bag I lay down on the back deck. With out a scope I hold the gun how it feels comfortable. When its comfortable I attach a Wheeler clamp on level to the barrel. At that point my gun is "level".

Next I mount the scope so I have proper eye relief. At the same time I am looking across the back yard at a plumb bob or 4' level. At this point the scope is mounted and "level".

The important step is mounting a scope level and doing a tall target test to verify that your scope level is true to the scopes tracking. You only have to level the scope level to the scope. Nothing more. Once I have a scope level mounted I try not to take it off. Even if I'm swapping to another gun.


The bottom line is a few degrees of cant will not hurt you. If you want to have 45 degrees of cant then just compensate in your ballistic calc.
 
K0na_stinky said:
Am I missing something? What on earth did he do in the video?

Also by the looks of the posts in the thread is seems that most shooters are still under the impression that your scope needs to be level to your gun. It most definitely does not.


When I am mounting a scope I will put a bi-pod on the gun and with a rear bag I lay down on the back deck. With out a scope I hold the gun how it feels comfortable. When its comfortable I attach a Wheeler clamp on level to the barrel. At that point my gun is "level".

Next I mount the scope so I have proper eye relief. At the same time I am looking across the back yard at a plumb bob or 4' level. At this point the scope is mounted and "level".

The important step is mounting a scope level and doing a tall target test to verify that your scope level is true to the scopes tracking. You only have to level the scope level to the scope. Nothing more. Once I have a scope level mounted I try not to take it off. Even if I'm swapping to another gun.


The bottom line is a few degrees of cant will not hurt you. If you want to have 45 degrees of cant then just compensate in your ballistic calc.
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What do you use in the field or at the range as a reference to "level" your gun/scope/crosshairs before taking a shot?

The whole point of properly leveling your scope/rifle is for a reference point. If you have a rail mounted level, your scope needs to be level to the rail mounted level. If you have a scope mounted level, then the scope needs to be level to it. If you are not using a weapon mounted level(be it rail, scope or other) for reference then your just P!$$!NG in the wind.
 
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