Baikal MP-443

the steel gun is no different or better. i am just guessing that the only reason there is a steel gun is that it was a military specification by the Russians.
i had the 'poly' gun and it is a bruiser with one of the best triggers i have used and one of the most accurate 9mms.
 
Not sure what are you doing...It sounds like you are not in Canada, anyway I will try one more time… the OP first question was where to get a spare magazine for MP-443…The short answer is they are not available in Canada through the retailers because we the importer of Baikal pistols could not get any magazines (as the separate items) out of Russia.

MP-443 in 9x19 is allowed for import to Canada and has an FRT record. However, the manufacturer cannot sell for export defence-related and dual-use products. It has to go through Russian intermediary government agency Rosoboronexport . This middleman is quite expensive and interested only in significant quantities and mostly government to government sales. Therefore I was curious if we actually have any MP-443 in Canada.

MP-446 and MP-446C can be exported directly by the manufacturer. We imported MP-446C to Canada until April of 2014 when the economic sanctions were put in place.

Magazines being a dual-use product where never allowed for direct export by the manufacturer. The loophole was to export the pistol out of Russia with any number of magazines as one set. We exploited this and imported some steel frame pistols with 6 magazines. There are may be the owners in Canada who would want to sell some of theirs magazines. That is why I said the only way to obtain a spare magazine in Canada is to buy it privately, e.g. on EE forum.

One should be aware there are several modifications has been done to the magazines over the years of production. At least two different types came through our imports that are not interchangeable. In particular the latest MP446C import came with magazines that are longer and have different catch notches. To accommodate these magazines the slides and ejectors were also modified.

MP-443 in 9x19 and MP-446C in 9x19 (at least in the export form) are essentially the same pistol. While MP-443 was adopted for hotter 7N21 cartridge, the MP-446C was made for sport and export and officially approved for IPSC production. Most of parts are interchangeable between different generations. All parts are interchangeable between the same generation. Both pistols are available in polymer and steel frame versions. Many modifications were made to both pistols over the years, as a result some parts are not interchangeable even within the same model but different year of production; good examples are magazines, barrels, slide stop levers, slides, ejectors. Saying that MP-446C is a weak pistol is totally wrong. According to C.I.P. requirements each pistol has to be proof tested at 130% of a max pressure before it can be sold.

MP-443 in 9x21 Gyurza (not to be confused with 9x21 IWI) was never commercially imported to Canada. It has no FRT record. Even though the MP-443 in 9x21 Gyurza was known much earlier, the manufacturer officially showcased the pistol in this calibre in 2013 at Russian expo. Though the pistol would be legal in Canada, it cannot be exported out of Russia other than through Rosoboronexport. The 9x21 Gyurza ammunition is prohibited in Canada. 7N28 soft core FMJ could be an exempt, but I doubt any of the importers will be interested in certifying this cartridge with NRCAN knowing there are no firearms in Canada for this cartridge and the cartridge cannot be exported out of Russia being not a civilian product.

All other variants such as CO2, rubber bullet, etc. are not of any interest.

As per your statement the magazines are readily available in western Europe and USA, they are not. None of the models of this gun may be distributed in the United States due to the USA import regulations. These guns are not available in USA. We had several European owners asking for spare magazines, as the magazines are not available there. The latest inquiry was less than three weeks ago from Estonia.

I hope we are clear now.

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