baikal vs cooey
- Thread starter Beer_drinker
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After replacing the plastic parts did you experience any other failures?
No, not yet, they seem like OK guns otherwise, but the steel parts were pretty pricey. About 1/2 what the gun is worth. One of my 840's, a .410 was extremely hard to #### the hammer on but after a few hundred times it's getting better.
I wish a manufacturer would produce a nice single shot like these old cooeys now. The plastic H&R's and plastic on the Baikals make me sick!!! I really love the old Cooeys, I shot my first rabbit and partridge with one and so will my son when he's old enough!!!
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- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
If memory serves me right, the 37A was assembled in the Cooey plant, in Cobourg Ontario and is in fact the Cooey 84 or 840 (memory sucks).Or look for a Winchester 37A, mine is a 20g 3" with a 28" barrel and I like it alot!!! Your farting on the Cooey for a plastic buttplate? If I had a dime for all the great guns with plastic buttplates!!!
The Winchester 37 is made in USA and has fewer issues.
Watch for (on the 37A) to the break the trigger return spring, and possibly the plastic for'end retainer, the top lever has also been known to break.
That said, the one I had years ago served me faithfully, and never had a single issue.
The first shotgun I ever bought was a mod 840 coey/winchester it wouldent #### so I took it to a gun smith and he fixed it (not) after about 400 shots the barrel fell off (seriously) I think the gunsmith was too hard on the locking block and must have damage the solder joint. any way I replaced it with a baikal which was an excellent gun and served me well for many years, the only bad things about the baikal were it had a extractor instead of ejector, and only had a 2.75'' chamber. I also had an old coey 84 .410 which I wish I still had.
I own three Baikals, two rifles and a shotgun. I also own a couple of Cooeys. The Baikal shotgun is over 30 years old, a single shot 20, and it has killed many hundreds of birds. No plastic parts on it. The newer Baikals have some plastic, the trigger guard and the cocking indicator. Also, the break action on the newer ones is quite stiff compared to my old shotgun, but they are breaking in. My older Cooeys are all metal, no plastic. I prefer the Baikals because I don't like hammers on single shots, just a peculiarity I have.
GameStalker30-06
CGN Regular
- Location
- Newfoundland
Very true...But some of those low, entry level shotguns have "lived" longer than more expensive cousins. They are work horses, most cooeys and baikals that you see are in rough shape..Why? Because they were the go-to gun. Hardly failed, light, shot true and put meat on the table.
I own 9 cooeys/winchester singles...so just my 2 cents worth.
I own 9 cooeys/winchester singles...so just my 2 cents worth.
Shoot very well.... I have an IZH-18 (Remington SPR100) and a IJ-17, and while the 18 is no beauty queen, the 17 gives any Cooey I have ever seen a run for it's money... then steals it's money and leaves it abandoned in a back alley somewhere.
My shabby pics don't do it justice, but here is the IJ-17. Not sure of the year, but I am thinking early to mid 70s.
The actions on mine were tight at first, but a few boxes few them and they feel great. The 17 has external hammer so it is very easy to break open, where with the 18 you are cocking the gun as you squeeze the lever and it is a little tougher. Sorry, Baikal all the way on this one.
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Excellent thread. The combined posts of many different experiences clearly show that an older Cooey or an older Baikal are both better than either maker's more recent offerings.
Remember: Never buy a gun based on the maker's name - always look at the gun in front of you and decide based on it's own merits.
Almost every maker has built both quality guns and, at other times, turned out crap. Also, you can't exaggerate how common the practice of contracting out manufacturing is, and has always been, in the firearms industry. Sometimes it's just parts (such as the manufacture of barrels in Europe for American guns), and sometimes it's the entire gun (zillions of examples).
Remember: Never buy a gun based on the maker's name - always look at the gun in front of you and decide based on it's own merits.
Almost every maker has built both quality guns and, at other times, turned out crap. Also, you can't exaggerate how common the practice of contracting out manufacturing is, and has always been, in the firearms industry. Sometimes it's just parts (such as the manufacture of barrels in Europe for American guns), and sometimes it's the entire gun (zillions of examples).
ninepointer
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Central Ontario
Who else, if anybody, makes a hammerless utility single-shot besides Baikal?
