My Mother and Daughter bought me a nice custom mauser for Christmas and I'm trying to take the stock off but can't get the trigger guard off. Seem like bakelite. With the other mausers I have I just remove the back screw and lift it out of the inletting and turn it to expose the screw. I'm afraid to do that as I think the bakelite will break. Double set triggers. Any ideas?
Bakelite trigger guard
- Thread starter Shakky
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- Western Manitoba
The words you are using do not describe a "normal" mauser - like 1893, 1895, 1896 or 1898 pattern. "I just remove the back screw and lift it out of the inletting and turn it to expose the screw" - sorry, just can not follow what you mean by that sentence. Is it possible that you have a trigger guard loop made of horn (not bakelite), that replaced the original steel trigger guard loop? They look like a "shotgun" style, with a long tang that flows along / inlet into the pistol grip inner curve? A picture of what you are working on would probably help! A "standard" mauser trigger guard includes the magazine box and has one action screw ahead of the magazine and one behind the trigger loop. If it is a Parker Hale with a detachable magazine, there is a third "hidden" screw under the magazine release lever.
They look like a "shotgun" style, with a long tang that flows along / inlet into the pistol grip inner curve? Correct. On my other mauser has a metal loop I just lift the loop out of the inlet and rotate it exposing the action screw but this loop is bakelite or something.
I'm trying to get at the action screw behind the trigger loop. I'd post a picture if I could figure it out.
I'm trying to get at the action screw behind the trigger loop. I'd post a picture if I could figure it out.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
Sorry, can't help you - the one and only that I ever disassembled was a metal one it had a threaded stud at its front end, just forward of the trigger and a wood screw into the tang along the pistol grip - from my electrician days playing with "bakelite" boxes in old buildings, you are rightly cautious to get some better advice than I can give - no coming back, so far as I know, from breaking or cracking that stuff...
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Guess it's just the picture but it looks like brass to me .
The bakelite, horn whatever is screwed to the piece of metal that I would think rotates based on my other rifles but it doesn't seem to. Gaff, thats the plan but before I do that and risk breaking it I thought I'd ask here. Its not brass for sure. Not metal except for the small piece that I hope with rotate. It doesn't move at all not like my other mauser.
That does look to me like a shotgun style trigger guard, and I would really expect to see that there was a screw at the forward tip of it which held it secure to the front of the trigger plate.
Is that a bolt head, at the rear of the magazine well?
Based on what I see there I figure the trigger guard front strap has the screw thread on it and dried mung is keeping the whole from turning. My first thought would be to apply some form of padding (leather, or rolled up layers of paper towel, for instance), get a secure grip on it with a clamp or vise grip type pliers, and gently (!!!!) apply pressure in both tightening and loosening directions. I would clamp on so as to best avoid having the front strap and the front of the trigger guard move relative to each other as that was tried. Gentle!
Material? Celluloid, patterned to look like Tortoise Shell is another possibility. Dig around the web and you will find the description of a hot pin test that will help you sort out the material if you wish to. Essentially you get a pin red hot and touch it to a not visible portion of the material being tested, and observe the reaction, whether it melts or burns, and smell the smoke, for plastic or burnt hair smell.
Is that a bolt head, at the rear of the magazine well?
Based on what I see there I figure the trigger guard front strap has the screw thread on it and dried mung is keeping the whole from turning. My first thought would be to apply some form of padding (leather, or rolled up layers of paper towel, for instance), get a secure grip on it with a clamp or vise grip type pliers, and gently (!!!!) apply pressure in both tightening and loosening directions. I would clamp on so as to best avoid having the front strap and the front of the trigger guard move relative to each other as that was tried. Gentle!
Material? Celluloid, patterned to look like Tortoise Shell is another possibility. Dig around the web and you will find the description of a hot pin test that will help you sort out the material if you wish to. Essentially you get a pin red hot and touch it to a not visible portion of the material being tested, and observe the reaction, whether it melts or burns, and smell the smoke, for plastic or burnt hair smell.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
I see your rifle has claw mount bases - those guys could do amazing "hard fitting" of metal pieces! If no evidence of bolt/screw from front or top, consider that the metal base of the front of that trigger loop may slide forward, out of a dovetail, and then lift free - never seen one done that way, but somehow, someone got it to stay there very tightly!!
- Location
- Western Manitoba
Good on you! I would be nervous too, but can't imagine how nervous if it belonged to someone else!!
