Baretta vs Benelli
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The a400 will have a better chance of cycling lighter loads. It will be faster cycling and softer shooting.
While I dont own any benellis at the moment I have in the past. I have 3 a400s and a 1301 comp.
Running a skeet field for 20 years a good gas gun will have a better chance of cycling light target loads than an inertia gun.
The super Vinci was designed to run 3.5" waterfowl loads
Depending on model the new a400s in camo run 2500 to 2900 new plus tax. Black Friday sales are coming though
Depends what you want it for ultimately of course but for me ill always be a gasser fan that way I dont have to worry about the benelli click
While I dont own any benellis at the moment I have in the past. I have 3 a400s and a 1301 comp.
Running a skeet field for 20 years a good gas gun will have a better chance of cycling light target loads than an inertia gun.
The super Vinci was designed to run 3.5" waterfowl loads
Depending on model the new a400s in camo run 2500 to 2900 new plus tax. Black Friday sales are coming though
Depends what you want it for ultimately of course but for me ill always be a gasser fan that way I dont have to worry about the benelli click
I have owned both. The Vinci pounds the shoulder compared to the A400. The A400 feels like I'm swinging a 2x6 around (my opinion). I prefer the slimmer Benelli feel but hate the recoil. My happy place is still with the Winchester SX3 and original Browning Maxus.
Interesting.
I shot a Benelli M2 (inertia) back to back with a selection of gas guns at the weekend (1301 / A400 / Versamax) and the recoil impulse is quite different (more harsh / violent on the M2 IMO).
I have never owned an inertia gun so I got to wondering if they could reliably run lighter loads which would negate this perceived difference between the M2 and the gas guns? From what you describe the answer is no.
As I said I have almost no experience with inertia and this is all second hand info but but I talked to Callum in the video at the match in Greece and this topic came up. He told me that he switch from a gas Beretta to an inertia Benelli as he found that the Beretta only ran on heavier loads (they rate their ammo differently there but I believe he mentioned 30g loads?) but he could run the Benelli on lighter loads. I believe there are parts available for the M2 (less strong bolt spring?) which may help with this and maybe this is a factor?
I also talked to Briley and asked they specifically which system is more reliable and the answer was "It depends" (which I feel is accurate). They seem to prefer inertia but stated they would work on anything. They did mention that inertia runs much cleaner (which is widely accepted) and of course comes into play with reliability.
Bolt fails to rotate fully and lock ,annoying but you learn to double check after reloading.I have stated before that In Argentina dove hunting where you literally shoot thousands of rounds per day (7000 for me in 3 days) they took an A 400 and did not clean it to see how far it would go ,30,000 it finally failed to fire and they discovered there was so much powder residue in the firing pin it had bonded it solid.This being said I used 20/28 g Benelli my entire time and my "gunboy" insured that it was good to go every morning .We were also shooting 5 "up the pipe".
There are benellis that will cycle loads there are many more that wont. A subgauge inertia is alot more likely to work with light loads. My Lil legacy 28 ran flawlessly but it was just so slow cycling I sold it. Hearing and feeling the action cycle while I was trying to pick up the second target bothered me. I stayed with my a400 28ga.
Asking a 3.5" inertia gun to reliably cycle the full board of 12ga loads is asking alot.
I watched a brand new sbe3 cycle trap loads the other week but the owner trips the release before calling for a target. The empty hulls just fell out of the gun at his feet
There are gas guns that wont cycle everything as well.
Speaking in generalized terms ive seen alot more inertia guns fail with lighter loads in 12ga.
Also gas guns dont care if the gun isn't forced against your shoulder. Inertia guns often need the recoil pulse to be absorbed by something to cycle. My original hk benelli struggled if I didnt have it firm against my shoulder. Firing from the hip it was a single shot majority of the time. It wouldnt shoot 1oz loads in semi auto fashion either
I've read some euro shooters dislike the a400 18.6bore as they use felt wads and think a 18.4 bore gets a better seal. My berettas pattern well with both felt and plastic cup so I cant tell a difference. My a400 xplor and 1301 comp will both cycle 3/4oz roll crimped 2.5" shells fine. I've yet to see an inertia gun do that.
Asking a 3.5" inertia gun to reliably cycle the full board of 12ga loads is asking alot.
I watched a brand new sbe3 cycle trap loads the other week but the owner trips the release before calling for a target. The empty hulls just fell out of the gun at his feet
There are gas guns that wont cycle everything as well.
Speaking in generalized terms ive seen alot more inertia guns fail with lighter loads in 12ga.
Also gas guns dont care if the gun isn't forced against your shoulder. Inertia guns often need the recoil pulse to be absorbed by something to cycle. My original hk benelli struggled if I didnt have it firm against my shoulder. Firing from the hip it was a single shot majority of the time. It wouldnt shoot 1oz loads in semi auto fashion either
I've read some euro shooters dislike the a400 18.6bore as they use felt wads and think a 18.4 bore gets a better seal. My berettas pattern well with both felt and plastic cup so I cant tell a difference. My a400 xplor and 1301 comp will both cycle 3/4oz roll crimped 2.5" shells fine. I've yet to see an inertia gun do that.
I shoot both an A400 and a M2 now. Have shot lots of other Benellis' and Beretta's on the past.
The M2 definitiely has more recoil. I switch back and forth between the 2 depending on what I'm doing.
Shot a AX800 last week in SK. I think that may be the next purchase.
The M2 definitiely has more recoil. I switch back and forth between the 2 depending on what I'm doing.
Shot a AX800 last week in SK. I think that may be the next purchase.
Its surprising how drastically different guns can feel in recoil. I often shoot 3 to 5 different guns in a day at skeet. Shoot a round or 2 with a beretta autoloader than switch to a light weight 20ga double and although the recoil is minimal its still a shock at how much difference there is between the gas 12s and a double 20
I've been a Benelli fanboy for a long time. The Vinci and super Vinci were not good releases from Benelli. I would choose a Benelli semi-auto over all Beretta semi-autos EXCEPT the Vinci line.
Ive just started to experience the Benelli click shooting 5-stand with light target loads... Time to get an over-under and it's probably gonna be a Beretta.
Ive just started to experience the Benelli click shooting 5-stand with light target loads... Time to get an over-under and it's probably gonna be a Beretta.
I've always preferred a clean-shooting inertial shotgun over a gas gun...but I don't shoot formal trap or other competitive stuff. I hunt waterfowl very occasionally, and I enjoy casual backyard clay-pigeon-shooting with a simple thrower or even a hand thrower when I have company. If I were shooting hundreds of rounds in a day, maybe I'd want the gas gun for recoil mitigation...maybe...
Another Option if your looking for a 3" gun is the 3' A400 Solo . I'm really liking it so far I've run everything from 7/8 oz skeet loads to 3" 1 1/4 oz waterfowl loads. It defiantly feels softer than the A400 Xplorer and A400 Sporting & Benelli Super Sport I've had previously. 450 rounds through it in the last couple months and not one hiccup. And the lower price point on it didn't hurt at all.
