Barnes and the .270 win

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Hello all.

I have a question pertaining to the .270 Win and the Barnes TSX and Tipped TSX.

The .270 will likely be my first rifle, (i do own a 12 ga.) Black bear with the occasional moose will be on its menu, maybe coyote too, but that's another topic. Also, my cousin handloads and said he could help me out, but doesn't know barnes too well.

Would i be better served with the TTSX or TSX? I know i can get the TTSX in 110 and 130 gr, and the TSX up to 150gr. Would the TTSX expand too rapidly for moose? Or would it only be advantagous due to the tip and the higher BC?

In the end i guess I'm wondering if the tipped versoin in the same weight be better the the un-tipped.

Thanks for your time!
 
Here is my observation for what it is worth. I have used the X, XLC, TSX, and TTSX more than any other bullet. The TSX is by far my favorite of the bunch because it, in my observation, provides more dramatic results. I believe it opens quicker than all of the other Barnes offerings. This seems strange when comparing it to the TTSX, but after seeing firsthand what the TTSX didn't do I called Barnes. Apparently the TTSX's are "harder" in their makeup which I think causes them to open less dramatically than the TSX.
 
I've just recently picked up a Husqvarna in 270 Win. With it I got a selection of primarily Sierra's, 130gr and 150gr BT's. I've just started 'trying' some Barnes in it and a long story short, I think I've settled on the 130gr TTSX Boattails with IMR 4831.
 
The 130 TSX/TTSX in 270 is LETHAL. H4831 is about as good as it gets with that combination. Here is a bull Elk hit with the 130 TSX/H4831 combo at 547 yds. Short of a CNS hit I've never seen an animal go down so quickly.

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On the other hand, this bull took three hits in rapid succession in the boiler room from my 280 AI and the 140 TTSX at 120 ish yds and never flinched or showed signs of being hit. He just continued to trot until he fell over 35 yds later.

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@ Chuck Nelson - you make it sound like the .270 is superior to the .280...:p

I don't think you can really come to any significant conclusion just because one elk dropped almost immediately while the other trotted for 35 yards after multiple hits. As you know each animal will react differently depending on its mood, the nature of the first hit and so forth. I've seen deer drop instantly with a lung shot from a 7mm RM while another ran at least 50 yards with the same shot.

Having said that I really like the 130gr TSX in the .270 Win - my powder of choice is RL22. You can easily get well over 3100fps out of a 22" barrel with that combo - and man does it penetrate! I think it is probably one of the best combinations for all big game hunting in Canada.
 
1899 said:
@ Chuck Nelson - you make it sound like the .270 is superior to the .280...:p

I don't think you can really come to any significant conclusion just because one elk dropped almost immediately while the other trotted for 35 yards after multiple hits. As you know each animal will react differently depending on its mood, the nature of the first hit and so forth. I've seen deer drop instantly with a lung shot from a 7mm RM while another ran at least 50 yards with the same shot.

Having said that I really like the 130gr TSX in the .270 Win - my powder of choice is RL22. You can easily get well over 3100fps out of a 22" barrel with that combo - and man does it penetrate! I think it is probably one of the best combinations for all big game hunting in Canada.
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I'm not implying one is better than the other but simply stating what you are as well. It has more to do with the animal and circumstance than cartridge selection. But the TSX is a penetrating killing machine.
 
130 gr bullets are what made the 270 Win both famous and popular. Light recoil, exceptional accuracy, and deadly.

I have killed everything from groundhogs, deer, sheep, caribou, moose and big bears with it. That included the longest big game shot I ever took, one of our huge bull moose at over 600 yd with a single 130 gr Win Silvertip ahead of 62 gr of the old Surplus H4831, second from last day of the season, witnessed by three experienced hunters.

The 130 TSX apparently makes it even better! Nice.........:)

Ted
 
Why not? said:
130 gr bullets are what made the 270 Win both famous and popular. Light recoil, exceptional accuracy, and deadly.

I have killed everything from groundhogs, deer, sheep, caribou, moose and big bears with it. That included the longest big game shot I ever took, one of our huge bull moose at over 600 yd with a single 130 gr Win Silvertip ahead of 62 gr of the old Surplus H4831, second from last day of the season, witnessed by three experienced hunters.

The 130 TSX apparently makes it even better! Nice.........:)

Ted
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For years I refused to own a 270 Winchester because, well, everyone else did. Now I know why they do!
 
From Henry Nierychlo on site and shopping:D on a recent trip through the B.C. interior to Terrace, I've picked up a 'selection';) of Barnes TTSX & TSX for a few calibers. For the 270 Win I've settled on the 130gr TTSX but I was wondering about the 110gr TTSX. Has anyone had any experience with them? If so, comments? How would you say they perform on paper and on game compared to the 130gr?
 
Are we really saying 270s are ideal for moose? What are all the other calibers for? I don't doubt they work, so do bows with 50 foot pounds of energy and a good broadhead. I live on a property with moose, deer, and black bear, and was recently considering a 270 too. I'm not trying to dis the 270, I'm just not a big believer in magical cartridges, or over-reliance on perfect bullet performance. I choose cartridges on the basis of lower average performance rather than looking only at the most spectacular shots reel.
 
Pepperpopper said:
Are we really saying 270s are ideal for moose? What are all the other calibers for? I don't doubt they work, so do bows with 50 foot pounds of energy and a good broadhead. I live on a property with moose, deer, and black bear, and was recently considering a 270 too. I'm not trying to dis the 270, I'm just not a big believer in magical cartridges, or over-reliance on perfect bullet performance. I choose cartridges on the basis of lower average performance rather than looking only at the most spectacular shots reel.
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It is easily enough for moose. If the TSX doesn't shoot well in your rifle you can try Swift A-Frames or Nosler Partitions in 130 or 150 grain weights. The Partitions are also available in a 160gr Semi-Spitzer.
 
Cool thanks for the info guys. Black bear, coyote, and punching paper would be the main purpose for the .270, with moose as a once in a while endevour. The reason behind the .270 is the region of ontario i live in has calibre restrictions, and limitations of funds allowing me to only purchase one rifle.

I know that with a less than ideal cartrige, you have to be more picky about the shot you take. I bowhunt as well, and have to be pretty picky about shots and practice, practice, practice.

So, from what i have gathered, the 270 with a 130gr + tsx will work. Not ideal, but it will work.

I mean, it could be worse, i could have asked if a .223 is ok on moose.....
 
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